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Aug 27, 2013 at 10:21:42 PM
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I don't even bother any more. Too many times I've helped people out like that and saw them selling the items on Ebay a month later. I got tired of other people profiting from my generosity.

Aug 27, 2013 at 10:22:15 PM
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Only reason I re-sell for retail is because I don't want some dork buying from me for a deal, then turning around and profiting.

I have no problems at all cutting deals to people that will enjoy the games. One of the main things I love about NA is that most people here feel the same way.

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Aug 27, 2013 at 10:31:26 PM
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This is a great idea but like everyone else has said theres lots of flaws. I will admit I have been one to put stuff in finders keepers but then offer the games for sale. But I love to put things if finders keepers as I hardly find anything good and when I do it gives me such a great feeling and I just want to tell the world HEY I FOUND A SUCH AND SUCH CART YAAAA. But I do also give great deals. Example when got all those snes carts with a Chrono trigger in it and demons crest. The person who bought the demons crest I also gave a bunch of extra snes carts to. This is a great hobby and it would be great if not everyone was so greedy but that will never be the case and we just have to live with it.

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Aug 27, 2013 at 10:49:51 PM
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I have to disagree. Granted, I am a reseller and only collect select items, but I recently got an earthbound and mega man x3 for $2.50 each. I want a sealed copy of super metroid. I'm not going to sell them for $75 each so I can fork out money out of my pocket to get a sealed super metroid. Just doesn't make good sense. If someone is going to give me a sealed super metroid for $150, then that's a different ball game, but that's not going to happen.

Aug 28, 2013 at 12:48:01 AM
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What you're saying Vandy is ridiculous.
I don't know what financial situation you are in, but whatever it is it doesn't matter.
Do you have kids? Are you renting or do you own your house? Are you struggling to pay he utility bills/rent/mortgage? Are you struggling to buy groceries? Can you afford school fee's for your children? Are any of your children or family members sick where they need medicine which you're struggling to afford?
Who the fuck are you to say what people should or shouldn't do with their games and who are you to even begin a debate about how making money on reselling an item is a 'dick move'!
Maybe you can afford to donate to charities, maybe you have enough money to flip the games you find for 10x less than the going rate, maybe you're financially comfortable, but don't go around slandering people that do don't this, and put them in the same category as 'scam artists' and 'crooks'!
Who are you to make that judgement?
And don't go arguing that you're not financially well off or boast about how generous of a person you are to look out for your fellow collector... That would be just ridiculous.
Have a child with an illness that you can't afford to cure, get an eviction notice from your bank, or eat bread and water for a week because you can't afford a steak and then we'll see if you still argue the same.

Aug 28, 2013 at 1:07:46 AM
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Originally posted by: Holy-SNES

What you're saying Vandy is ridiculous.
I don't know what financial situation you are in, but whatever it is it doesn't matter.
Do you have kids? Are you renting or do you own your house? Are you struggling to pay he utility bills/rent/mortgage? Are you struggling to buy groceries? Can you afford school fee's for your children? Are any of your children or family members sick where they need medicine which you're struggling to afford?
Who the fuck are you to say what people should or shouldn't do with their games and who are you to even begin a debate about how making money on reselling an item is a 'dick move'!
Maybe you can afford to donate to charities, maybe you have enough money to flip the games you find for 10x less than the going rate, maybe you're financially comfortable, but don't go around slandering people that do don't this, and put them in the same category as 'scam artists' and 'crooks'!
Who are you to make that judgement?
And don't go arguing that you're not financially well off or boast about how generous of a person you are to look out for your fellow collector... That would be just ridiculous.
Have a child with an illness that you can't afford to cure, get an eviction notice from your bank, or eat bread and water for a week because you can't afford a steak and then we'll see if you still argue the same.

I hardly think this thread deserved such an explosion.

I've already stated the types of people my thread refers to. I'm not talking about a one-off sale of your collection at premium prices because your family is in need. I'm talking about the habitual resale threads. Go read my first post again to get an idea of what I'm talking about.

"Are you struggling to pay he utility bills/rent/mortgage? Are you struggling to buy groceries? Can you afford school fee's for your children? Are any of your children or family members sick where they need medicine which you're struggling to afford?"

^ If these are all issues in your life, why are you involved in such an expensive hobby like collecting video games? Why would you be wasting your money on it? If you can't even pay your bills, or you have sick family members etc. etc., then I don't think collecting video games is the wisest move.

But I'm not here to tell anyone how to live their life. I'm just opening a discussion. You have your opinions, that's fine. I still have mine.

Let's keep it civil.

Aug 28, 2013 at 1:10:56 AM
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Originally posted by: fdisk

umm game collecting is expensive people resell to fun there collection nothing wrong with that



Evidently you still have a lot to learn. Resellers are in it to make money, not to fund their nonexistant "collection". That's why the general consensus among collectors is that most people who resell to make a living are scum


Edited: 08/28/2013 at 01:14 AM by vcube1234

Aug 28, 2013 at 1:23:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Holy-SNES

What you're saying Vandy is ridiculous.
I don't know what financial situation you are in, but whatever it is it doesn't matter.
Do you have kids? Are you renting or do you own your house? Are you struggling to pay he utility bills/rent/mortgage? Are you struggling to buy groceries? Can you afford school fee's for your children? Are any of your children or family members sick where they need medicine which you're struggling to afford?
Who the fuck are you to say what people should or shouldn't do with their games and who are you to even begin a debate about how making money on reselling an item is a 'dick move'!
Maybe you can afford to donate to charities, maybe you have enough money to flip the games you find for 10x less than the going rate, maybe you're financially comfortable, but don't go around slandering people that do don't this, and put them in the same category as 'scam artists' and 'crooks'!
Who are you to make that judgement?
And don't go arguing that you're not financially well off or boast about how generous of a person you are to look out for your fellow collector... That would be just ridiculous.
Have a child with an illness that you can't afford to cure, get an eviction notice from your bank, or eat bread and water for a week because you can't afford a steak and then we'll see if you still argue the same.





What crawled up your ass?

Aug 28, 2013 at 1:25:08 AM
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Originally posted by: vcube1234

Originally posted by: fdisk

umm game collecting is expensive people resell to fun there collection nothing wrong with that



Evidently you still have a lot to learn. Resellers are in it to make money, not to fund their nonexistant "collection". That's why the general consensus among collectors is that most people who resell to make a living are scum
This reply is just ridiculous. Most people who resell to make a living are scum?



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Aug 28, 2013 at 1:28:19 AM
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This thread pretty much boils down to some false sense of entitlement that collectors are "owed" something compared to resellers. And I am a collector myself. A big part of the fun of collecting for me is finding good deals. Believe it or not, I still get excited for others when they find a really sick deal, reseller or not.

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Aug 28, 2013 at 1:32:45 AM
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Indeed, this thread is pretty much about someone whining, but at the very least, he was clear about it in the OP.

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Aug 28, 2013 at 1:35:18 AM
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Originally posted by: Vandy

Originally posted by: Indigo_Streetlight

I don't think anybody is obiligated to run a charity with how difficult it is to find some of these games; however there is the matter of doing business in a quiet, professional, and serious way. If the market value is $400, why not sell for $350? That's still cutting the other party a break. Heck, even American Pickers would pay $200 for an equivilent item with the claim that it's going to a good home and they're only making a fractional profit. We can see with these examples that it's not just a matter of good fortune being passed along, but how much good fortune an individual thinks they should be getting
This right here is something I can completely agree with. It would be up to you how much of a deal you want to cut another collector on an item. If you purchase something for $10 and the going sale price is $100, it's your call whether you want to sell it to a collector for $20 or $80. But to inflate it to $120 is just ridiculous. That's all I'm really getting at.


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I dont think the OP is saying this is his life creed, but rather that sometimes he (and others) treat people as he (or they) would want to be treated.

^ This.
 
*nod* I agree as well, in personal dealings there's always a range. I think the $120 figure you mention is more like the hardcore reseller number; if they can camp on it and make the slow sale then they should have no trouble being able to resupply. I can somewhat understand it if a seller prices some items high and some items low, but it definitely feels like running up against a wall when everything they have is priced high.

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Aug 28, 2013 at 1:37:18 AM
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Originally posted by: vcube1234

Originally posted by: fdisk

umm game collecting is expensive people resell to fun there collection nothing wrong with that



Evidently you still have a lot to learn. Resellers are in it to make money, not to fund their nonexistant "collection". That's why the general consensus among collectors is that most people who resell to make a living are scum
Please go.



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Aug 28, 2013 at 1:39:09 AM
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Originally posted by: milligangames

Originally posted by: vcube1234

Originally posted by: fdisk

umm game collecting is expensive people resell to fun there collection nothing wrong with that



Evidently you still have a lot to learn. Resellers are in it to make money, not to fund their nonexistant "collection". That's why the general consensus among collectors is that most people who resell to make a living are scum
Please go.

 




Aug 28, 2013 at 6:43:03 AM
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Originally posted by: doner24

This thread pretty much boils down to some false sense of entitlement that collectors are "owed" something compared to resellers. And I am a collector myself. A big part of the fun of collecting for me is finding good deals. Believe it or not, I still get excited for others when they find a really sick deal, reseller or not.

Completely agreed.

I'm just so sick of these threads. Let people sell their shit for whatever they want. You aren't forced to buy it.


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Aug 28, 2013 at 8:59:52 AM
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Originally posted by: vcube1234

Originally posted by: fdisk

umm game collecting is expensive people resell to fun there collection nothing wrong with that



Evidently you still have a lot to learn. Resellers are in it to make money, not to fund their nonexistant "collection". That's why the general consensus among collectors is that most people who resell to make a living are scum


Please choose your words more carefully, you do not speak for the majority of collectors and the statement above is fucking ridiculous. 

Aug 28, 2013 at 9:31:26 AM
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Originally posted by: vcube1234

Originally posted by: fdisk

umm game collecting is expensive people resell to fun there collection nothing wrong with that



Evidently you still have a lot to learn. Resellers are in it to make money, not to fund their nonexistant "collection". That's why the general consensus among collectors is that most people who resell to make a living are scum



umm, so do you apparently. Reading is fundamental.

He said:
"game collecting is expensive"==== this is a collector.
"people resell to fun(d) there collection nothing wrong with that" ==== a collector selling extras to fund their collection. Where did he say anything about being a reseller? Yeah, nowhere.

Nice troll post btw.

Aug 28, 2013 at 9:34:26 AM
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Now on topic, I think I am very fair both online and in person but ill be damned if im gonna give something away just because i got it for cheap. My time and effort are worth something and once I give something to someone else i have no control over what they do with it after its in their hands.

Aug 28, 2013 at 9:56:11 AM
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No one should just give it away, that's wasting your person time and efforts. I can't speak for the rest, but when I do post something whether it's a straight turn over, or it's something I have, I will take time with it first. I have a little pride in what I post so I don't turn over stuff in less than the best shape it can be which means a tear down and a cleaning inside and out of whatever it may be. Then you get the photography and some words of description and quality(speaking of ebay here) and so on. All that takes work, time, and the initial investment. So sure, it may fairly sell at $100, it was had for $10, but that doesn't mean I'll let it go for $20 as that's dumb. Waste of time, effort, and fees too(ebay.) I'd probably just post it for $90 under the average a hair just so it sells quicker and someone gets a small deal in an effort to put it in a players hands and not someone for the flip as a flip for $10 is pointless. Even so once it's gone I can't control their thing, maybe they treat games like oil and gold and they'll hold it 90 days and hope to make $30 or so on it with a high BIN but that's not my problem anymore.

Aug 28, 2013 at 10:07:15 AM
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I see a lot of "well, you got it cheap, sell it to me for cheap" in here. If you found a Stadium Events for $8, but only needed the manual, are you going to sell the CB for $20? No, you aren't. Get over yourselves.

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Aug 28, 2013 at 10:08:42 AM
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LOL what about a MMX3 like he said? Would u knock $10 off for a kid who really wanted it?

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Aug 28, 2013 at 10:11:10 AM
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I personally don't see a problem with ANY OF THIS. The market is so cut throat, at least in my area, that if I find a decent deal locally or even on Ebay I'm gonna jump on it, keep what I want and then sell the rest. Otherwise, bobby will come by and do the same thing.

It helps provide funds for other things and it is the beauty of this hobby. In all honesty, if you're letting somebody else's finds and intentions bother you, then you're just being envious and indirectly self-centered.

The time and effort it takes to find deals, clean, test, post and ship them should justify any of that concern.

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Aug 28, 2013 at 10:15:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Viper0hr

Originally posted by: Aphex21

Yeah I saw earthbound and hagane at the goodwill today for $5 but I didnt buy them because I already have them and figured another collector would like to have them.
First you're lying.
Second, if you're not lying go back and buy that Hagane and I'll pay you for it since I need one!!!


YOU NEVER PASS ON SHIT LIKE THAT!!! WORSE CASE YOU CAN SELL/TRADE IT ON HERE FOR LESS TO COLLECTORS!!!







Apparently missed my sarcasm. Ill pass on deals to my friends if its something they need and they do the same for me. But even selling a 400 game for 250. That person can still just resell it and make a decent profit. I know some people that resell stuff just to make a 15% margain which to me isnt worth it.

Aug 28, 2013 at 10:22:12 AM
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To be fair, I am just speaking for the average collector out there who doesn't have a lot of cash to burn and would appreciate a nice deal.

I love this hobby. That's why I love encouraging new collectors. It's a lot of fun to talk about collecting and my favorite stories are the ones where someone is just genuinely excited to get a good deal on a game they have been searching for.

Maybe it's for the best that someone locks this thread. It's diverged wildly from the original message behind it.

Aug 28, 2013 at 10:34:56 AM
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I think that people also fail to realize that resellers have far more at stake than collectors. I don't know many collectors who are willing to "risk" thousands of dollars and countless hours every month to open a store to be able to buy games cheap.

Let's suppose that you (not directed at anyone in particular) didn't own a store and you're like a lot of people in Finder's Keepers driving around yard sales on Saturdays. So you find a copy of MegaMan X3 for $20. Looks like a good deal on the surface, but what about the 4 hours of driving and looking through stuff and $20 in gas that you used, or essentially risked? If you assume your time is only worth minimum wage, and minimum wage is $7.50/hr, your total investment in the cartridge is worth $70. Is it not fair to be able to ask for say $85 on NA without being called an f-ing reseller who is making a killing?

I'm very happy and willing to give a discount to NA members and a bigger discount to friends and acquaintances, but strangers who feel entitled to a significant discount just because I got something cheap is the exact reason why I rarely offer anything for sale on NA.

To the OP: I can appreciate what you're saying in the original post as it would be extremely nice if collectors could pass on extremely good deals to other collectors, but there are people who would take advantage and abuse it. Unfortunately, when personal gain is involved, anything WILL become abused. I know that such deals happen, but usually is kept low-key for the above reason.


Edited: 08/28/2013 at 10:40 AM by BenTO