Originally posted by: Great Hierophant
Originally posted by: CZroe
That particular NES already had the CIC disabled so NWC's timer was already broken. Also, the BLW itself circumvents the CIC in a way that likely breaks NWC compatibility in the same way (no CIC reset). The point of the BLW is to make it work as reliably as a top loader. The top loader doesn't have the pins for exp audio, doesn't have a CIC for NWC, and the CPU CLK pin is NC, so this only makes functionality closer: easier to remove while still being just as reliable/functional as the top loader. If you want EXP audio on the top loader NES-101 you have to modify the cart or use Hi-Def NES, just like an NES-001 with this BLW mod.
The average user this is intended for just want's their NES to work reliably and will never use EXP audio, CopyNES, or NWC. We actually let a coworker try it modified and unmodified, explained what he would lose if he chose modified, and he chose modified. I think it's clear that the average user would rather have 20% less grip strength. I'm NOT the average user and even I prefer that.
The average front loader NES owner got rid of his console fifteen to twenty years ago. Those people with NESes who bought a BLW are already beyond average.
I agree with you that your average NES owner would not want to install a CopyNES in his system and will never come near an Official Nintendo World Championships cartridge. But before indisriminately pulling pins and doing irreversible damage to a BLW, they should be made aware of what they are giving up. The expansion audio will be exceptionally dearly missed once you hear how well it was put to use. Castlevania 3, Gimmick and to a lesser extent Rolling Thunder sound so much better with expansion audio.
I determined earlier that the BLW does pass the lockout chip's reset signal to the cartridge, its the only one of the four signals it passes to the cartridge, so NWC and the SMB/T/NWC carts should work appropriately.
This. You can do what you want to your own personal system, but I would prefer to leave mine stock as they aren't hurting anything. And I don't think you should be pulling pins from the BLW and selling them to customers without full disclosure. Should they decide to get a PowerPak and mod their system in the future, they'll be in for a rude awakening.
And yes I got the NES working again. Loading and unloading the carts with the NES lid off clearly gave me an indication that the "death grip" is not so severe and in fact the cart loader really doesn't grip any more tightly than my SNES (when not using the edject tab) or AV Famicom. The problem is there's only about 3/8 inches of cart to grab, and for those of us with large man fingers, gripping the thumb tab is almost impossible. It would be neat if someone could fabricate an eject tab similar to what the SNES had, but I can't imagine such a device would work without cutting up the case plastics.
A better mod for the BLW if you wanna go "stock" would be to remove the CIC and jumper the four pins together. Then you still get the benefit of "blinking screen" when attempting to play an out of region or just simply stubborn/dirty cart. Not sure why anyone would want to as I have no nostalgia for that shite.
Originally posted by: CZroe
Sorry to hear that your Game Genie plan didn't quite work out.
It's okay; the situation fixed itself and my NES is reading carts again. Fortunately there is zero evidence of pin damage anywhere. I still don't know what was up with the blank screen issue, but disassembly and reassembly apparently fixed whatever was wrong. I would advice extreme caution and very gentle insertion if using a modified Game Genie.
I also once trashed a "junk" 3rd party pin connector with a Genie, but I think that particular specimen was just faulty. After fixing the damaged pins, a couple more pins got bent a few days later, this time using it with a normal cart. Attempting to fix them failed, pins broken off inside, and I ended up buying two more replacement connectors from another source. The next one lasted me until I installed the BLW last year, but it wasn't super reliable either. Sometimes the cassette tape or CD jewel case holding the tray at half mast was still needed, or I just used my AV Famicom with a pin adapter.