If the nes classic can play game with no to reverse lag why does the avs have a little lag?

love my AVS though : )

I don't have an AVS, but I find this very hard to believe.

The NES Classic Edition forces an anti-flicker filter to reduce the likelihood of triggering epileptic seizures. You can see how it causes a screen melt effect in some games.

Screen melt in high-FPS slow motion:




That causes lag because it needs to buffer frames to analyze/blend them.

The first thing I noticed with NES Classic Edition on my TV is the lag, even with Game Mode enabled. My NES-001 with Hi-Def NES HDMI mod has no perceivable latency. I set it to 1080p output to match the native resolution of my TV and bypass the extra image processing / resizing my TV might try to do otherwise. I don't recall testing how my TV would handle 720p output.

NES CE lag in high-FPS slow motion:

The AVS does not add any lag.

its true guys I have both

He did insane lag tests on the AVS using high speed cameras.

There is no lag.

that sounds missleading since there is some lag from avs to tv

I do not see it on the nes classic

I apologize that you believe you have more lag on the AVS than the NES Classic.

But that's just not a possibility.

Maybe it has to do with classic controllers? Wheres this video please

Yeah, wheres the video KEVIN?

I edited videos into my post, which I recorded myself when the NES Classic launched. I noticed the lag immediately and noticed the image processing screen melt soon after. If you get a triforce piece in Zelda, you'll see another strange artifact of the NES CE image processing.

do you have one for avs?
 

Here, I did some research for you.

http://nintendoage.com/forum/mess...

I have Hi-Def NES, which is pretty comparable. It basically hijacks communication between a real NES CPU and PPU, then uses an FPGA (the same thing AVS is built with) to duplicate the functions of the PPU chip and produce HDMI output with no frame buffer.

I could try to do a comparison soon, but I know the NES Classic will lose.

But he has both. It's true.

nothing about nes classic

I'm sry im not trying to be rude

It's your TV adding lag to the AVS signal.

and the nes classic edition doesn't

I also play original nes through CRT as well

Check your input settings. My TV allows completely different settings for each input. If one has a game mode and the other doesn't, or if one has extra processing, there's your lag.
 

My guess would be that it’s mind / perception tricks. Being aware of confirmation bias, perhaps you can perform a test.

Do you have an iPhone? Most iPhones can record in high-FPS slow motion. You can sometimes increase the recording frame rate further in Settings > Camera.
 

I'm trying very hard to be patient with you. It's very hard. I want to be mean. I really want to be mean. But I won't. Because you are new. So I'm trying to cut you some slack.

There are no direct comparisons between the AVS and the NES Classic. Do you want to know why? Because there doesn't need to be. There are so many reports out there of the lag from a NES Classic. So many.

I gave you a direct link to lag tests dealing solely with the AVS.

World class tetris players have played it. Thousands of people have been playing it for a year. Nothing but praise. People who own world records for twitch reflex games have been playing it. Nothing but praise.

But here you are, saying your AVS has more lag than the NES Classic.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. And if you'd do less typing of three word sentences and more reading, you might find some useful information confirming this.

And with that, I am done. Good luck. I'm sorry that your AVS is so laggy. But I'm just going to assume that it's 1) your TV or 2) user error.

both through same hdmi input with game mode on everything else off
 

Yes! That’s a great point. Maybe swap the HDMI cords at the back of the NES CE and the AVS, then test again.

 

Placebo effect.