Wow, that set is amazing!!!  
 

Yeah, Tetris Masters playing the game at 19+ is THE TEST for player perception, in my opinion.

There are tons of shitty TVs out there, though, so real life results are probably going to vary until we build up a comprehensive list of what works best.

 

The analog audio inputs with the HDMI are so you can use an adapted DVI source, like a PC.
 

With the DRC feature, this TV has an image processor like my 2 Sony TVs with SFP tubes. I don't see how the Zapper could work.

 

Good thing i can buy a hdmi to component cable and just stick with my trinitron, i want to buy a 4k set but my requirements are low input lag and the set has to be able to process 240p correctly. 

You're aware that HDMI is a digital signal and component is analog. Do these cables have a built-in converter or something?

 

...or a DVD player. Chicken and egg. Almost all of the digital video source devices when this TV launched were DVI, and the adaptability is what made the transition to HDMI happen so fast. Most mainstream consumer HDMI devices for years had alternative ways to get audio out in case you had a DVI set. First major device I recall doing HDMI-only without alternative audio output was the ChromeCast, then we got the 2015 Apple TV and now the upcoming PS4 Neo (assuming the leaked image is correct; I've already seen consumer backlash).

Dunno but if it works for bob from retro RGB on his PVM, i see no reason why it would not work for me. 

A nine buck cable is not much of a gamble.
 

Hang onto it. I got the smaller of the two XBR910s (30") and it still impresses everyone I show it to. One of my friends reminds me every time he sees it that he wants it if I ever get rid of it. My older brother watched a few movies on it when visiting from out of state and was suddenly sold on the idea of building a home theater. He previously eschewed TV and movies with a passion but he went home and spent several thousand dollars on the best 4K TV, BD, and sound hardware he could afford (still thinks the experience on my tiny XBR910 was better  ).

KDS had a reputation for making value monitors but when the Pentium III launched I built a system using their top-end 17" Visual Sensation monitor (detachable VGA, secondary input with BNC connectors, etc). Several years later I was carrying it around to QuakeCon and still getting compliments. I thought everyone was crazy because it was so old but I see now that very few compared. I eventually upgraded to a Dell 2005FPW and a Dell 2007WPF but I kinda wish I still had that monitor around for a compatibility system with 3dfx Voodoo2 SLI connected to the BNC input (still have the cables).

If you're talking about his AVS review, he's using an HDMI to component converter, not a cable.

 

I still think KDS rebranded a monitor that was made by some other manufacturer. It was aperture grill and looked amazing  
 

Surely they make them as cables too. Earlier today Ichinisan iMessaged me a pic of a cable that does the reverse (he was looking at at fleamarket wares and the vendor had it with RF modulators and universal game AV cables.

 

Just found this and i might be able to use this for another application as well. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...

I'll most likely be bypassing any upscaling at all, and just displaying a native 720p center-screen. Being that my display area is ~120", I still get about an 80" picture without any upscaling at all. Sometimes, I even go as far as to play GCN/PS2/DC games in native 480p, which leaves me with a roughly 53" display. Keep in mind, though, with a 4:3 aspect ratio a large portion of the image is letterboxed (which leaves me with about a 36" fullscreen display). My wife thinks I'm insane when I do that, but I just love those razor-sharp pixels. 

Component and VGA put out a decent enough picture that I can upscale any of those consoles to 1080p - even the Genesis looks decent through HD Retrovision's component cables. With a display area that large, however, anything over composite (NES) looks like absolute garbage. That's a big reason why the AVS is so clutch for me in terms of picture quality. It sounds like knee-jerk games that were previously unplayable on my livingroom setup are going to be possible now, as well (thanks Brian). 

I'll be interested to see what the lag is like on my BenQ w1070. The numbers above are quite promising. I accepted some additional latency as a fact of life when I bought a projector, but the w1070 is quite fast for a projector (20-40ms with an average ~30ms). The digital to analog conversion that my AVR is doing on my NES right now makes some games a no go, while others are still quite playable. Passing 720p, it should introduce no more than 1-2ms of latency and, without upscaling, I should be looking at somewhere in the 21-42ms range. That would make me a very happy camper, indeed!

 

First post here; had to set up an account for the scoreboard feature. I'm all ready to go now  .

Very nice to see that upscaling to 4k looks great! Is your 4k tv the Samsung KU6300? If it is, I just ordered this tv (43") yesterday. I saw it was a recommended gaming tv on rtings and was in need of a newer tv, so I decided to pull the trigger. I'm ready to game on it with the AVS!

Same model, but mine is the 40". Just be sure you find the PC setting  

Indeed, will do! Thanks!

Say, this is off topic, but maybe someone here would be able to answer.

Love the built in 4 score for the AVS. What I'm wondering is, if Japanese games will be able to use it for 4 player games, or will I still have to use the Famicom Expansion port and an adapter?

There is a menu option for the 4-score. USA, Japan, or off. Japan mode lets you use a US Vaus with Arkanoid II.  

 

Wow, thanks!

my cool lag testing video! I usually count frames instead of doing a side by side comparison, but its awesome to see stuff like the electron beam moving down the screen.

Found the game mode for composite, looks even worse! It is significantly faster than game mode off but still slower than HDMI.

Hey I'm not really sure where to ask this question, but I figured this was the most recent AVS thread. I was driving around thinking about the AVS and the scoreboard feature. This feature has always intrigued me since I heard about it - like how it will work. Anyway to keep this short, I was wondering if the high scores will reflect whether they were achieved legitimately or with the help of the built in game genie codes. I was thinking that there could be a feature to either let people know if genie codes were used, or to not have the hi scores uploaded at all if said codes were used. Hope this makes sense and that I'm not stepping on toes posting this here! In super curious about the AVS

The cart is dumped to check for external gg codes and hacks, and the console keeps track of the internal codes entered, so the easy ways of cheating are detected. Can't do anything about other cheats like turbo controllers but I wouldn't want to because I use them  

For flash based games (Xmas 2013, Solaris for instance) or other RetroUSB or GT-ROM flash homebrew, if we want to submit a high score on scoreboard, I would imagine that normally one would do this immediately following the game over screen. BITD games, the initial screen was merely a throwback to the arcades even if it got purged when the power was cut.

However, with flash based games that save to the ROM, if we flip to menu to submit our scores via scoreboard, we lose the ability to save our score to the cart. Also the ROM technically changes with every high score name entry as well as any variations to LE serial on the title screen. Checksums of ROM dumps would be different even on the same cart dumped on different occasion, invalidating the integrity checks.

So certain pieces of the ROM (score tables, serial numbers) would need to be ignored at verify.

PS - Also turbo controllers are awesome!