Do you consider the Nintendo World Championships cart as part of a "complete set"?

I realize this has probably been done to death but I'm just trying to get an idea of how the community feels about this topic in the form of a poll.  And yes, "complete set" is somewhat vague and people will define it however they want, but i'd like to see where people stand.  If you want to interperet "complete set" as "licensed set" you can use that definition too, since it's clearly not an unlicensed game.

Note: the first option in the poll should not be voted on, it's only there to prevent skewing the results in case someone doesn't actually make a selection properly.

Part of the complete Licensed NTSC-USA set, yes. As well as 1991 Campus Challenge. Only room for one complete set in the world!

Edit: After careful consideration and reading my own standards- I actually can not say the 1991 Nintendo Campus Challenge cart is part of my list.

There can be only one!

Nope. It's three games with a new title screen put into one.. A variant, sure, but not a unique release.

It wasn't available to the general public, so I don't think I would count it. I think an NTSC Complete Set would include all licensed and unlicensed games that were available for sale to the general public. I count Blockbuster rental exclusives too, I guess because they were still meant to be accessed and played by the public.

No I don't conceder NWC part of a complete NTSC NES set,because it's not a commercially released game.But I do conceder Stadium Events as required to have a complete NTSC NES set which is why I will never have a complete NES set because I will never own Stadium Events.

No seal of quality, no product code, not a licensed game! If it counts only because Nintendo made it then all Nintendo prototypes would also count.

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Yeah, pretty much my argument as well.  Still love to own one (not interested in a Gold, a gray would more than do), but I don't consider it part of a complete set.

One could argue that the NWC was officially distributed by Nintendo (to contestants and contest winners) and those prototypes were not.

Protos were often distributed to magazines for review.  Both given away by Nintendo (as well as third party companies) for free and without the intention to be sold.

Not an official release to the public so anyone can buy it off the shelf.

Prototypes, by their very definition, are not finished products (or at least final PCBs that were "mass produced"), unlike NWC. NWC was also given out to random people and contestants, unlike prototypes which are usually given to people "in the business". They are somewhat similar in the fact that both (most protos) use EPROMs. Either way, I don't believe that NWC belongs in the same category as prototypes.

How many people were able to buy a new Flintstones 2 or Cheetahmen II off the shelf?

I say no seeing how there's around 116 of them and there's like THOUSANDS of nes collectors, with more growing each day. This just makes it impossible to have a complete collection for most.

Why should the available supply have any bearing on whether it counts or not?  It's not some intrinsic right that every collector should be able to get a complete set.  If that were the case none of these games would be worth anything.

I'm not sure, they were eventually sold though. NWC was not.

Both were created and released for commerce, making them commercial.  NWC wasn't released for commerce, it was released as a prize, making it not a commercial release.

No they weren't, not as a retail release. They were all sold second hand, just like NWC.

I owned a new Dinosaur Peak, would you consider that second hand?

They were absolutely created for commerce.  If F2 was rental only (and we have no real way of knowing at this point unfortunately) it was certainly AT LEAST made for the rental market.  Rental market is certainly commerce, making it a commercial release.

NWC was created for a contest and as a give away, never intended for commerce.

Not if your the original owner,it does only if you sell to another person.

It isn't like NWC is some unofficial thing never meant to see the light of day, especially considering the gave them away in a contest. It is a official release, even if the method of release limited it to a very small number of either very skilled or very lucky people. I mean new copies of Stadium Events and Flintstones 2 were limited to only a handful of very lucky people as well.

Exactly, did you originally buy it from a store back in the 1990s?  If not then I would abosutely consider it second hand.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I do think the NWC is the holy grail of NES, but to count it as a complete set as it wasn't out for retail is just silly. It would be like saying every pirate game would be considered a complete set.