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Yellow cart Mario/duck hunt Picked it up in a lot of games purchased.

Aug 27, 2013 at 1:32:40 AM
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There are also enough yellow Zeldas found that it is unlikely to be some guy making one for himself. Is there any doc or part number for the Duck Hunt one tho?

Aug 27, 2013 at 1:49:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Limbofunk

Originally posted by: dropkickorange

Originally posted by: Limbofunk

Going WAAAAY off topic here: Is the cart legit in the way of how the Zelda test cart, Control Deck, Joystick, etc. carts are considered legitimate? No. Those carts were shipped from NOA to the service centers the way they were after they were purchased.

Just out of curiosity, has the Zelda test cart been confirmed as legitimate? Does it have a specific Nintendo parts department number? I always thought it was a "custom" made game assembled by service center employees from separately ordered parts (yellow cartridge case, standard PCB, standard label). I agree with everyone who thinks this cart was put together that way.

 

No part number that I've found that specifically says 'Zelda test cart' in the listing, but it's referenced in at least one of the technical manuals.  I used to fall asleep trying to read those as they are snooze city.
 


the zelda carts also have a back label unique to those carts as well. OP's cart didn't have any back label, which I think is fitting if it's a service center one-off rather than a "standard" item.

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Aug 27, 2013 at 4:10:24 AM
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Here's my theory about the Zelda test carts, which may also explain the origin of this or any other "one-off" test cartridge:

Service centers were required to perform a "burn-in test" on NES control decks after they repaired them. The standard procedure was to set up a work station with a monitor, video cables, power supply, and game cartridge. Basically, they connected the console, powered it on with a game inside and then left it running all day in order to make sure it wouldn't overheat before they returned it to the customer. 

The game that Nintendo recommended for this test is The Legend of Zelda. I believe that most service centers ordered the antistatic yellow test cartridge housing along with a spare Zelda label and standard Zelda game board (all of which have individual part numbers listed) and assembled the Zelda test carts to be used for this purpose. This would have been a good way to differentiate them from the other Zelda carts that may have been sent in for repair. 

I think most service centers followed Nintendo's recommendation and used Zelda for this test, which would explain why there are so many of them that have surfaced over the years. However, they could have chosen any game that was available at the time. Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt would have been a good choice because they could use it to test both of the controller ports and the zapper without switching out cartridges.
 

Originally posted by: Lincoln

the zelda carts also have a back label unique to those carts as well. OP's cart didn't have any back label, which I think is fitting if it's a service center one-off rather than a "standard" item.

Isn't the label on back of the yellow Zelda carts the same battery warning label that was on back of standard retail carts? I think most service centers that planned on putting together a Zelda test cart probably ordered that back label along with the front label and applied it themselves. I don't think any of the other test carts have a back label.


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Aug 27, 2013 at 5:41:35 AM
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Aug 27, 2013 at 8:22:02 AM
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I think Limobfunk has cleared up the legitimacy issue. I've had a lot of test carts pass through my hands, and I have never even heard a rumor of something like this existing. It's almost certainly a one-off of some sort and not something from NOA.


Edited: 08/27/2013 at 11:40 AM by jdchess

Aug 27, 2013 at 9:48:17 AM
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Aug 27, 2013 at 10:05:09 AM
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I made the $500 offer, but have zero interest in purchasing the game from the current owner.

Sorry you got hosed Matt, you're a solid dude for doing what you did.

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Aug 27, 2013 at 4:04:21 PM
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Originally posted by: jonebone

Originally posted by: th0rpe

The thing that everyone seems to be missing is the fact he (the original seller) said that he wanted the game back for his kid, and now he is wanting to sell it for max profit. That's the shady part.
No, everyone is confusing the order of events.

He wanted it back for his kid.
The OP of the thread says "Well, to be honest, I've been offered $500 for it."
Now the family is considering selling after this new news.  And they said if it's not worth a lot, then they'll just hang onto it, which their was entire intent in the first place!

My dad has some old board games in the attic, if my mom sold them I'd want them back for sentimental value too.  But then if I find a thread on the net that it could be worth $500+, maybe I'd take the money too.  Not that hard to follow the scenario.

Of course, that is exactly how it happened. I mean come on what kid doesn't want a yellow Super Mario/Dunk Hunt cart? My daughter is only six but a yellow Super Mario/Duck Hunt is #1 on her birthday list for when she turns 7.


Aug 27, 2013 at 4:05:28 PM
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Originally posted by: MrMark0673

I made the $500 offer, but have zero interest in purchasing the game from the current owner.

Sorry you got hosed Matt, you're a solid dude for doing what you did.


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Aug 27, 2013 at 4:18:46 PM
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Originally posted by: buyatari2

Originally posted by: jonebone

Originally posted by: th0rpe

The thing that everyone seems to be missing is the fact he (the original seller) said that he wanted the game back for his kid, and now he is wanting to sell it for max profit. That's the shady part.
No, everyone is confusing the order of events.

He wanted it back for his kid.
The OP of the thread says "Well, to be honest, I've been offered $500 for it."
Now the family is considering selling after this new news.  And they said if it's not worth a lot, then they'll just hang onto it, which their was entire intent in the first place!

My dad has some old board games in the attic, if my mom sold them I'd want them back for sentimental value too.  But then if I find a thread on the net that it could be worth $500+, maybe I'd take the money too.  Not that hard to follow the scenario.

Of course, that is exactly how it happened. I mean come on what kid doesn't want a yellow Super Mario/Dunk Hunt cart? My daughter is only six but a yellow Super Mario/Duck Hunt is #1 on her birthday list for when she turns 7.






Lol. Actually, I have a 7yr old daughter that was upset that we had to give it back, because it was "different and her favorite one"

Aug 27, 2013 at 4:19:31 PM
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Was reading through this topic and all I can only smh at the original sellers. OP- Mrdouin is a really good guy. Obviously they seen this topic and even created a account to reply. Still would be nice to get some pictures of the inside. I'm sure the seller will be throwing this up evertually attempting to make profit sooner or later. With no proof and no knowledge about the cart I don't see this happening.

Aug 27, 2013 at 4:39:52 PM
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imo if this was pieced together by some random dude working at a nintendo repair center and it has a normal smb dh board in it and there is nothing special about the board . why in the hell would anyone pay 500 bucks.

imo thats like buying a bootleg ps1 game that was made when the ps1 was king of the era.

to me i wouldnt pay more then 50 bucks for a catridge that was patched together by a repair center.

Aug 27, 2013 at 4:43:02 PM
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Originally posted by: dropkickorange

Here's my theory about the Zelda test carts, which may also explain the origin of this or any other "one-off" test cartridge:

Service centers were required to perform a "burn-in test" on NES control decks after they repaired them. The standard procedure was to set up a work station with a monitor, video cables, power supply, and game cartridge. Basically, they connected the console, powered it on with a game inside and then left it running all day in order to make sure it wouldn't overheat before they returned it to the customer. 

The game that Nintendo recommended for this test is The Legend of Zelda. I believe that most service centers ordered the antistatic yellow test cartridge housing along with a spare Zelda label and standard Zelda game board (all of which have individual part numbers listed) and assembled the Zelda test carts to be used for this purpose. This would have been a good way to differentiate them from the other Zelda carts that may have been sent in for repair. 

I think most service centers followed Nintendo's recommendation and used Zelda for this test, which would explain why there are so many of them that have surfaced over the years. However, they could have chosen any game that was available at the time. Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt would have been a good choice because they could use it to test both of the controller ports and the zapper without switching out cartridges.
 

Originally posted by: Lincoln

the zelda carts also have a back label unique to those carts as well. OP's cart didn't have any back label, which I think is fitting if it's a service center one-off rather than a "standard" item.

Isn't the label on back of the yellow Zelda carts the same battery warning label that was on back of standard retail carts? I think most service centers that planned on putting together a Zelda test cart probably ordered that back label along with the front label and applied it themselves. I don't think any of the other test carts have a back label.
 

No, the back label is unique to Zelda Test Carts.

The Zelda Test Cart is the only game to have a gold back label WITHOUT any embossed letters or numbers.


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Aug 27, 2013 at 4:45:09 PM
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Originally posted by: fdisk

imo if this was pieced together by some random dude working at a nintendo repair center and it has a normal smb dh board in it and there is nothing special about the board . why in the hell would anyone pay 500 bucks.

The Zelda Test Cart uses a normal retail PCB, I'd throw $500 at one all day long.

Official or otherwise, I like collecting rare NES games.  This would be one of those things.

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Aug 27, 2013 at 4:46:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Mrdouin

Originally posted by: buyatari2

Originally posted by: jonebone

Originally posted by: th0rpe

The thing that everyone seems to be missing is the fact he (the original seller) said that he wanted the game back for his kid, and now he is wanting to sell it for max profit. That's the shady part.
No, everyone is confusing the order of events.

He wanted it back for his kid.
The OP of the thread says "Well, to be honest, I've been offered $500 for it."
Now the family is considering selling after this new news.  And they said if it's not worth a lot, then they'll just hang onto it, which their was entire intent in the first place!

My dad has some old board games in the attic, if my mom sold them I'd want them back for sentimental value too.  But then if I find a thread on the net that it could be worth $500+, maybe I'd take the money too.  Not that hard to follow the scenario.

Of course, that is exactly how it happened. I mean come on what kid doesn't want a yellow Super Mario/Dunk Hunt cart? My daughter is only six but a yellow Super Mario/Duck Hunt is #1 on her birthday list for when she turns 7.
 



Lol. Actually, I have a 7yr old daughter that was upset that we had to give it back, because it was "different and her favorite one"


I can't understand how you ask for something back which you sold all for the sake of a child and then turn around and sell it at a higher price. 

My daughter has a favorite teddy bear she calls teddy. It is not for sale at any price. I would not sell it for $5 and I wouldn't sell it for a thousand dollars as she would truely be upset. I went so far as to search Ebay for an identical replacement teddy bear (man did that suck) just in case something would ever happen to it. It arrived and well she found it. She instantly knew it was not the same one. She calls that one Teddy Junior. 

If they did change their minds about selling it because the kid no longer wants it then they should honor the previous sale which they broke. 

My kid really really wants this game and has been crying all night over it but for $500 fuck it. SOLD !

 

Aug 28, 2013 at 12:48:05 AM
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Aug 29, 2013 at 2:08:03 PM
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Well... this is interesting. I'm the person who was next in line per the fb sale page it was posted on. I noticed the yellow cart and asked what it was. Then let the seller know it was likely valuable and let them know the Mega Man 5 was around $50 bucks in value. I wish I hadn't done that in hindsight. If the person who got the yellow cart back sells it and they are honest people I think he should split the profit with the original buyer... wouldn't and honest deed deserve to be partially rewarded? The fact is that the seller became aware of the carts value because I pointed it out hours after it was sold. That's fact.

Aug 29, 2013 at 3:01:03 PM
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Originally posted by: buyatari2

My daughter has a favorite teddy bear she calls teddy. It is not for sale at any price. I would not sell it for $5 and I wouldn't sell it for a thousand dollars as she would truely be upset. I went so far as to search Ebay for an identical replacement teddy bear (man did that suck) just in case something would ever happen to it. It arrived and well she found it. She instantly knew it was not the same one. She calls that one Teddy Junior. 
 
Same deal in our house, my son has a fox named "Foxy" that my wife wants to find a backup for incase something happens.  I attempted to explain to her that he'd instantly know it wasn't the same Foxy; I might need to show her this as proof.



Aug 29, 2013 at 3:44:38 PM
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Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker

Originally posted by: buyatari2

My daughter has a favorite teddy bear she calls teddy. It is not for sale at any price. I would not sell it for $5 and I wouldn't sell it for a thousand dollars as she would truely be upset. I went so far as to search Ebay for an identical replacement teddy bear (man did that suck) just in case something would ever happen to it. It arrived and well she found it. She instantly knew it was not the same one. She calls that one Teddy Junior. 
 
Same deal in our house, my son has a fox named "Foxy" that my wife wants to find a backup for incase something happens.  I attempted to explain to her that he'd instantly know it wasn't the same Foxy; I might need to show her this as proof.

 

Well what you could do and what I should have done was this.

Once you find this exact doll buy 2 of them not 1. Put the old Foxy in the wash to "clean him up" and make him look like new. Then swap them out and instead pull one of the new copies out and just test the waters. Even play the devils advocate and say No thats not Foxy just to have your child come to his defense. Yes it is he is just new and clean. If it goes horrible you do still have the original to fall back on.

If this works then try and swap between the two new dolls every month or so to even the wear between them. One goes missing you still have the backup. 


Aug 29, 2013 at 3:52:17 PM
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Originally posted by: mrg711

Well... this is interesting. I'm the person who was next in line per the fb sale page it was posted on. I noticed the yellow cart and asked what it was. Then let the seller know it was likely valuable and let them know the Mega Man 5 was around $50 bucks in value. I wish I hadn't done that in hindsight. If the person who got the yellow cart back sells it and they are honest people I think he should split the profit with the original buyer... wouldn't and honest deed deserve to be partially rewarded? The fact is that the seller became aware of the carts value because I pointed it out hours after it was sold. That's fact.
The value of the carts were what they sold for.

After selling these carts they found out that they could sell them for more to someone else. So they played the our child can't live without it card. They BSed, and lied not for the sake of a child but for the sake of money. They pulled on the heartstrings of an honest trader who took them for their word and did something that he did not have to do and something no one here would fault him for if he didn't.

Then the same seller wants to play the market for max value from the same group of people this well intentioned collector who was wronged belongs to.

I'll tell them where they can put that yellow cart. It won't be yellow after that.

Aug 29, 2013 at 3:56:51 PM
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How are all these people related to the original sale all of a sudden registering and posting? How is this thread, on this board, about an obscure 1 off NES cart on a Craigslist ad bringing in not only the OG seller, but his wife, and now a another interested party?


Does anyone else find this amusing/odd?

Aug 29, 2013 at 5:23:25 PM
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Here's why I came into the conversation. The person who posted it on craigslist also posted it on a fb local selling page. I was next in line on that page but also "publically" (it's a closed group to Snohomish County) posted/ asked what the yellow cart was because from the pic it looked like it was yellow and duck hunt/smb which I've not seen or heard of and was attempting to let the seller know (trying to be honest in case it was very rare). It was posted for $100 on that seller page BTW. Then I stated that it may be really valuable as well as told the poster that the "extra few games" included a MM 5 which has some value. By then the poster had already made the transaction so it sounds like after my well intended honest post about possible value way exceeding $100 for just the one game alone the seller saw that and then successfully got the game back. There is no way to "prove" %100 that the seller was lying about how he wasn't going to sell the game. However, it was clearly in the pic with all of the other 70+ games/ NES top loader. My opinion is that the seller who got it back should split the profit with the person they got it back from at the very least.

Aug 29, 2013 at 7:27:21 PM
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ok, i dont come around too often anymore, but this was a fun read...

and when robin said "you know what they say, karma's a bitch", he should win quote of the year for that!

these people seem like they are probably telling the truth on some of the shit, but overall, they found out they screwed up and decided to take advantage of the most trustworthy, kind person who has ever bought anything on craigslist before! it was a TOTAL dick move, but people are dicks in this world, soooooo shit happens, move on!

now, what happens to the game next will be interesting.

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dang this story curved pretty fast

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Aug 29, 2013 at 8:08:15 PM
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Yeah it has been interesting... after all of this I'm glad I didn't buy the lot. If I had I wouldn't have returned the game but would rather have made a fair agreement with the seller to auction it and split the money. Seems like the fair way to play it to me... thing is that at this point it's a one of a kind so if it does end up on ebay, auction site, ect... we're all going to know who the seller is. Well, I'll know because I have the fb account of the seller. And no, I'm not going to make that info public for one because it's from a closed fb group.