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BUNNY BOY is this possible Snes Repro!

May 7, 2008 at 11:31:08 PM
Bryansvideotrader (36)
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I don't know if you've seen this yet:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI....
But this game sounds amazing and I think it is a shame that there is alledgedly only one in existence. I contacted the seller and he seems like he would be willing to dump the game in hopes of making a reproduction cart. I know almost nothing about dumping roms, or making repros so I am not sure if any of this is possible. I do know that this game sounds like it would be tons of fun, and I am sure that plenty of people would buy it. If it is possible someone should make it happen, the NWCs on retrousb are amazing but this game is a snes title. It is also freakin huge, so I'm sure that could be an issue. If you think it is possible send the guy a message or something.

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May 8, 2008 at 6:58:59 AM
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Great idea! A repro of that would be very cool, only problem is I don't know If anyone knows how to make SNES repros. Are they made in the same way as NES?


Edited: 05/08/2008 at 07:00 AM by Mr. Gimmick

May 8, 2008 at 9:10:19 AM
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Well it's the same idea behind it. A big problem with this project though.......is the fact that theres no snes cic clone.

May 8, 2008 at 12:52:10 PM
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Does the snes even have a lockout? pretty sure they just relied on the cartridge shape for region protection.

May 8, 2008 at 12:54:34 PM
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No, I'm pretty sure the SNES had some sort of lockout becuase the unliscenced game super 3d Noah's Arc utiliizes an adapter which bypasses whatever secure measures nintendo installed.

May 8, 2008 at 1:15:54 PM
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Yes, the SNES does have a lockout device installed. Most PAL games won't work properly in NTSC systems, stating "This Game Pak was not designed for your Super NES." or something to that effect. As for dumping this "cartridge", I've heard it'd be quite nearly impossible, given the type of hardware used in making the game. Then again, I would hypothesize it can be done, and it'd probably be doable in much the same way the NWC was dumped.

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May 8, 2008 at 2:04:50 PM
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Easy answer: not possible

Hard answer: very expensive while using 2-3 donor carts. The square chip and very long chip on the right are both DSPs, extra custom processors. Those cannot be reproduced (for less than the cost of that auction) so they would need to be pulled from donor carts. Buy the cart and send it over here for a few months, then I can give you more details

SNES does use a CIC chip, its actually the same processor as the NES CIC but with different code loaded inside. Chinese have made exact copies of the chip die but the encryption has not been cracked like the NES. Physical cart shape was used for region blocking, not for third party cart blocking.

May 8, 2008 at 2:19:25 PM
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Theres custom chips on there? (didn't actually look that well) That pretty much makes this project impossible. Depending on how complicated the chips are...you might need an fpga to reproduce them (not cheap, not cheap AT ALL) So ya.



edit: just noticed that pcb has a place for a snes cart slot. I bet that would've been used for cic bypassing in case they couldn't install a cic for whatever reason.


Edited: 05/08/2008 at 02:21 PM by Jero

May 8, 2008 at 10:54:47 PM
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Its a cool idea but somehow I dont see this one ever happening.

May 9, 2008 at 4:11:44 AM
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Bunny Boy the owner of the cart wants you to E-mail him. PM sent.

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May 10, 2008 at 2:29:28 AM
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Originally posted by: jero32

edit: just noticed that pcb has a place for a snes cart slot. I bet that would've been used for cic bypassing in case they couldn't install a cic for whatever reason.




Actually, that's where the connector that plugs into the snes goes (underneith).

It's not that it would be hard to dump this, it just would be very difficult to do anything other than emulate it.


May 10, 2008 at 2:33:19 AM
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Well dumping it would be a good first step though.

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May 10, 2008 at 2:28:28 PM
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Ya and reverse engineering the cart of course.