Originally posted by: mb7241

Four reasons why it's *NOT* a modded AV Famicom:

1. The top (light gray) half of an AV Famicom lacks the upward curvature (outward towards you) if you're looking top-down at the system) near the cartridge slot that the standard top-loader NES has. Also, AV Famicoms have the FF/Family Computer logo where the normal Nintendo Entertainment System text would be.

2. The cartridge slots in top-loader NES systems are about 5/16" or so wider than those in AV Famicoms. Also, on the topic of cartridge slots, AV Famicoms have two in-folding doors over the cartridge slot. Top-loader NESes only have one.

3. Note the text "AV OUT" on the back of the top-loader in auction. That would be very difficult to fake without spending some major $$ on getting a new mold made for the plastic.

4. You will also note the absence of the expansion port in the right side of the system. American top-loaders didn't have that, but AV Famicoms did.

One final note...he reduced the price: $2000 start/$3000 BIN. Still a bit high, I think. It would be neat to own one, though .

I doubt the whole housing is modified, but making an authentic looking mod would be easier with the luxury of having only the back piece (the one with the "RF OUT" and DC IN" molded text) replaced with one from an A/V Famicom. But again, I don't know how the back pieces look like on A/V Famicoms, so it would be great to see a picture of it.

In the auction (with the prototype TopLoader) it says that the output is the same that is used in in SNES, the N64 and in the Gamecube. The output that the french NES toasters has is a contact/plug of "its own" (or what i shall say). This contact/plug doesnt fit inside a SNES etc. and you cant use i.e a SNES audio/video cable in a french NES toaster. I wish it was possible though, i think it would have been cool

I know, i just wanted to inform that the french Toaster NES uses a "special" TV-cable, it is not the same cable that the Super Nintendo, the Nintendo 64 and the Gamecube uses The TopLoader in the auction in the first post in this thread has a i.e Super Nintendo-like output.

I am 99% sure that the french NES consoles uses a PAL motherboard. If it was a converted american motherboard with only a ntsc to secam converter, then the CPU (processor) would still be alittle faster than the PAL CPU. This might causes glitches in the games, and the games might also run at a faster speed, which they dont, i tested a french NES consoles yesterday I'm not 100% sure, but i think the only difference between a PAL and a NTSC NES motherboard is the CPU and GPU (graphics card), but please correct me i'm wrong.

But i think you are right about that the french NES consoles arent true RGB though. I do think you need a SCART input on your TV that supports RGB signals though, or else it wont work. I remember i sold a NES console to a guy once, and he called me when he got home to test it, and he said it didnt work. I then told him to try to connect the NES consoles to another SCART input, and then it worked I think he only got the sound when he connected to a other SCART input on his TV. I assumed that the SCART input he first tried didnt support RGB signals, but i dont know, sorry :\

Ah ok, like that, then i understand what you mean But is it possible to do it like that, or will the game gets more "choppy/laggy" (or what i shall say) if you move the character in the game for example 2 pixels at the time instead of 1 pixel at the time?

By the way, i opened up a french NES console yesterday since it had some problems reading the games so i had to try to clean the connector, and i saw a "PAL-EEC" sticker on the motherboard, so i guess that the french NES consoles uses a PAL NES motherboard