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SNES CD So what do we know about this?

Oct 22, 2009 at 9:12:25 PM
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Nintendo wanted to have an add-on for the SNES so they got into contact with sony this much we know 100% as fact right? So what else do we know about this does anyone here actually own any sort of Dev hardware for it or better yet a prototype of it? how many games were supposed to be made for it on release? how far along was development?

Dream I'd be really interested to hear if you had any insight on this because of your background in the industry.


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Oct 22, 2009 at 9:18:43 PM
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pretty sure it was N64 not SNES. I may be wrong though. It's the N64DD I believe

Oct 22, 2009 at 9:21:21 PM
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Originally posted by: burdger

pretty sure it was N64 not SNES. I may be wrong though. It's the N64DD I believe

No, Ian is referring to the precursor to the Playstation that originally started off as a joint venture between Sony and Nintendo.

I have some info I will be digging up in a moment. . .


Oct 22, 2009 at 9:22:37 PM
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I think the N64DD was only released in japan here is a little info with a write up about "the 7th guest" SNES-CD this is badinsults site I'm thinking... http://www.snescentral.com/article.php?id=0854

EDIT *there's also a member of atari age that has a large binder full of info on it what's in that binder only he knows I guess lol CPUwiz I think...


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Edited: 10/22/2009 at 09:26 PM by i2a2n2

Oct 22, 2009 at 9:25:16 PM
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Originally posted by: i2a2n2

Nintendo wanted to have an add-on for the SNES so they got into contact with sony this much we know 100% as fact right? So what else do we know about this does anyone here actually own any sort of Dev hardware for it or better yet a prototype of it? how many games were supposed to be made for it on release? how far along was development?

Dream I'd be really interested to hear if you had any insight on this because of your background in the industry.


Most of the recent hype surrounds this auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI....

It was the center of much recent debate due to the lack of information surrounding it's origin.  Many claim it to be a Playstation prototype controller, and some others believe it to have Nintendo roots.  Each side claims the other doesn't have enough sufficient information to prove one way or the other. 

I know that there are a few pictures of a Demo unit floating around (I will dig one up in a bit), but to my knowledge no such unit is in the possession of a collector. 


Oct 22, 2009 at 9:28:01 PM
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I think I've seen the picture your talking about but their is questions about where the CD goes in correct? or is that a different picture?

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Oct 22, 2009 at 9:28:45 PM
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this is why the CDI came out right ?

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Oct 22, 2009 at 9:31:01 PM
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A proto of the Super Famicom PlayStation did indeed turn up. It's in the hands of a collector who chooses to stay unnamed IIRC.

Here's that picture.

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Oct 22, 2009 at 9:32:32 PM
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Originally posted by: i2a2n2

I think I've seen the picture your talking about but their is questions about where the CD goes in correct? or is that a different picture?

I think that you're referring to this prototype:


The one I was thinking of was this one:


I know that the second one was shown at some big show, but I can't for the life of me remember which one to be honest.  I don't know a lot about the first.

Buyatari seems to know an awful lot about this stuff, so hopefully he'll chime in with his take on it.



Oct 22, 2009 at 9:33:38 PM
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thats the image I was refering to ... so where does the CD go in?

*edit DAMN YOU beagle you fast poster... ment for before your post... you've done that alot to me recently cross forums to


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Edited: 10/22/2009 at 09:35 PM by i2a2n2

Oct 22, 2009 at 9:55:07 PM
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I know Secret of Mana made by Square was going to be for the SNES CD. Square was upset because they put all that time and effort into programing a game for it and then the CD got canceled. They cut back on the game and released it on a cartridge for the SNES. I am curious to know what they cut out of the game.

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Oct 22, 2009 at 11:17:08 PM
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Was the seller BSing about the controller getting 3k? His only got 800.

Oct 22, 2009 at 11:52:59 PM
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^ I believe he was... If I recall correctly, that was BuyAtari's auction (the one he referenced), and I don't recall that it sold, though I do remember it was listed for that much.

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Oct 23, 2009 at 11:20:58 AM
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I know there is a picture of the addon. I do not know if it was a working prototype.
Philips and sony both where contacted to develop the addon.
This is why there are licenced Nintendo games on the CDI.

Philips continued to make the CDI sony created the Playstation.
As far as I know no known prototype ever showed up on the grey market.

The controller showed in the auction is a playstation prototype, my guess is just after nintendo and sony broke the contract.

Oct 23, 2009 at 12:01:48 PM
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Originally posted by: snesmaster

I know Secret of Mana made by Square was going to be for the SNES CD. Square was upset because they put all that time and effort into programing a game for it and then the CD got canceled. They cut back on the game and released it on a cartridge for the SNES. I am curious to know what they cut out of the game.

100% true, to bad I don't think we will ever the original content know.  Sadly It'd probably be easier to learn Japanese and play the super famicon game (IIRC it has the original content - unchanged)

Still a great game though.

As for the prototype, someone actually bid 800 and it didn't meet reserve? Are these prototypes that expensive? or more so rare?



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Oct 23, 2009 at 4:40:20 PM
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The prototype controller has been relisted with a $899 BIN:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-SNES-Sup...

Oct 23, 2009 at 4:52:20 PM
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I would not pay that much.
Yes its a playstation 1 dev controller, but no evidence anywhere that the snes-cd would use it.

Think about it, why would nintendo create a new controller for a addon?

Oct 23, 2009 at 5:19:18 PM
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Originally posted by: DragonFire

I would not pay that much.
Yes its a playstation 1 dev controller, but no evidence anywhere that the snes-cd would use it.

Think about it, why would nintendo create a new controller for a addon?

Hey dude, I'm right there with you.  Hell, I wouldn't pay $50 for that. 

I just figured I'd post it in case someone else was interested.

Oct 24, 2009 at 3:46:15 AM
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Originally posted by: i2a2n2

thats the image I was refering to ... so where does the CD go in?


Looks like a caddy mechanism. (Edit: Oh wait, you were probably talking about the stand-alone system and not the add-on. In that case, nevermind.)

Also, everyone always claims that the CD-i was Philips' aborted fetus of the SNES CD, but this really wasn't the case. Philips (ironically, along with Sony) developed the CD-i disc standard in the mid 1980's, and already had working prototypes of a player by 1988, before the SNES was even released. Some of the history is a little vague, and it's difficult to tell what influence (if any) the SNES CD project had on the CD-i, but it doesn't seem like a whole lot, as the hardware in the CD-i is very different from the SNES.

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Edited: 10/24/2009 at 04:01 AM by Ze_ro

Oct 24, 2009 at 9:15:15 AM
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I though the snes cd was going to be an add on like the disk system for the famicom where it would go underneath the SNES. or am I completely off?

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Oct 24, 2009 at 2:32:39 PM
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According to this article the SNES CD was going to be a stand-alone CD-based console which Nintendo and Sony started with the negotiations already in 1988.
But Nintendo stopped the collaborations 'cause they instead wanted a cart-based console.



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Oct 25, 2009 at 5:36:15 PM
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Atariage user CPUWIZ had some kind of manual or info booklet on this system although it seems like he removed the images from this thread.

http://www.atariage.com/forums/to...

There is some other good info in that thread.

Jan 16, 2010 at 8:23:32 PM
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here is a pretty cool link i found... http://www.n-sider.com/contentvie...
its got some pictures of the snes cd ive never seen.

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