Fucking Gabriel!! He was top of my list of people I wanted to see go in this episode!

I know the show is scripted etc. and it is an amazing show.

What I do not understand is why their tactics do not evolve or use successful ones. For example:
1. In season 1 Rick and Glenn cover themselves in blood in order to camouflage themselves and walk across an open area. The rain washes away their plan, but it was effective. Carol used this tactic, if I remember correctly, when she saved the group from Terminus.

2. Morgan created traps out of sharpened logs. This was obviously successful and very efficient as seen in the episode "Clear." The group used this at the Prison, but that is it.

It almost makes the characters seem less intelligent. It is almost like forgetting at this point that blunt trauma to the head is what does away with walkers. Just my two cents. Thoughts?

This is all very true.. and I don't know that they have abandoned those tactics.. Everything is very situation specific as well.. Some moments have been on the fly, emergency situations.. It would have been good if they had quickly adapted and camouflaged themselves in tight situations... And fortifying traps and techniques worked at the Prison and for Morgan, because they had time to devote to developing those fortifications.We may yet see such traps and fortifications at Alexandria at some point soon.. Though, definitely have to remember that the group just got to Alexandria.. It might seem like they have been there awhile, but only a couple of weeks, maybe three at most have passed.. And having to deal with all the milk toast sheltered folks at Alexandria and tip toe around all those politics.. So, I definitely feel those tactics haven't been abandoned, and will be applied later. The camouflage tactics could definitely be used more.

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You guys remember your bibles right? The horn was a total biblical reference of, get this....Gabriel's Horn.

It was totally Gabriel being sour about the whole thing.

Furthermore, he is in with the Wolves. A wolf in sheeps clothing is another Biblical reference. The wolves found him after he kills his first walker and makes his first mercy kill.

This is why he changes so much with a new attitude when he returns to Alexandria.

This also fits with the fact that the wolves are very thematic, remember the guy in the red hood? Little red riding hood.

So...it is both the wolves and Gabriel. This is probably his task to be accepted into the pack.

SPOILER ALERT..................... ...................................................... ............ We shall see! The season got off to a good start though. Definitely some stuff to think about until the next episode.

1. Morgan seems accepting of certain behaviors, but it is going to take a toll on him with his new perspective on life.

2. Rick seems to have a new enemy in Pete's son.

3. The last of the "wall builders" is dead. What if the walls are compromised as they appear to be...what to do next?

4. That horn!

5. Will the group be once again be split due to this massive zombie wave/panic?

Mhm. This flew by me, but I did say the Wolves or Gabriel, just not for the same reason.

He did also kill his entire flock once before too. So, my bet is on him.

You guys noticed that Morgan didn't buy the 'innocent carol' act haha
And he's taking notes on everyone

I wouldn't think Alexandria would get destroyed so quickly

And fucking rusty aka nick papageorgio almost gets everyone killed screaming like a bitch

LOL, I couldn't figure out for the life of me who he was....fuckin Rusty.

So why didnt they just reinforce the exits of the rock quarry? I didnt get that. They have heavy machinery in Alexandria (as we have seen in prior episodes), why not pile up some boulders around those trucks or something? Or hey, how about stack up the 5000 cars they used to line the street in to some big giant wall, and then reinforce it with the metal panels they had?

I dunno. The big zombie "follow-the-leader" seemed like they just wanted to make a visual spectacle for the audience rather than a logical plan. It was cool, but just seemed dopey. Rusty was the only guy making sense of the whole thing by presenting logical concerns to an irrational Rick. Of course aunt edna bites off his cheek though!

Because they were strapped for time and reinforcing the quarry trap would make a lot of noise and rile up the megahorde. Also they needed to purge the horde becaise the noise was attracting more walkers which increases the risk of them winding up in Alexandria.

Also, how else would they advance the plot if they just simply keep the trap!

I dont think that Gabriel ran into the wolves. When Darryl and the other scout guy were out searching and stumbled upon the wolves hideout they stated that they were 50 miles away from Alexandria. It's not logical for Gabriel having been on foot and also the wolves from what we have seen being on foot to cross paths. That would have been quite the hike.

Also, who was just waiting for Sasha to just let off the gas and let the car be engulfed by walkers. I have a feeling she is contemplating that and Abraham is on to her. Thus him asking the question "youre not just doing this to die?"

rile up walkers while reinforcing the trap > rile up the walkers and hoping they keep walking in a straight line for 20+ miles. 

 

The scientist from Woodbury had a pit to trap walkers. They could have done something similar to the quarry and get rid of them every so often. I thought their plan was to survive etc... Eradicating the world from the walkers needs to be a part of the plan... Having them march off 20 miles to perhaps other camps seems like a weird move...

Ok so they can move a bunch of cars and line them up, I would make some Molotov cocktails and fire up that quarry with whatever gas they have, also I would think they can use a gun to trigger the fire.
Walkers aren't going to scream like rusty so burning them would be ideal when they are so close to each other too.

Rick is mental right now though. I don't think all the lights are on. It's his way, or the long island expressway. Rusty tried to help and he was shot down. Even he saw that he needed to get rid of rick for their safety. Now they have a quarry full of zombies headed towards their walls.


Also, what if it was Morgan that honked the horn? He was trying to tell rick something when rusty died, and rick shot him down and sent him away. Remeber Morgan honking the horn when he stuffed the wolves in the car? WHAT A TWIST!

morgan was right there dude. So I dont think so. They said the horn was far away near home. Morgan wasnt going that far in 2 seconds

Are you sure? I will have to rewatch. I thought rick sent him back to Alexandrea (or something?) after rusty died?

that happened right before the horn though. Morgan fought off the wolves. Morgan found rick. He cares about him. Hes not going to ruin the plan when its already underway. That makes no sense. Morgan is against killing people. He isnt going to put people in danger.

The whole point of the thing with rick was he saw rick stab the dude without hesitation. Even though he knew it had to be done. I think people are looking to much into that exchange.

We cant refute speculation with more speculation.

Who knows what Morgan feels. He walked in to rick shooting a dude in the face and then gets locked in a cell. Morgan read Carol pretty well, he can probably see Rick is nuts.

The whole point of the thing with rick was he saw rick stab the dude without hesitation. Even though he knew it had to be done. I think people are looking to much into that exchange.

I guess we will see. Did it ever show why Morgan was walking around? He stumbled on to Ricks map by accident, so what was he doing in the first place?

It was likely the wolves who set off the airhorn so as to let the walkers do their work for them.  They likely would have observed the preparations and planned accordingly.  (Or worse they have a spy/informer in the town.) 

It was a pretty trick overhead shot at the end though - reminded me of what the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest (except in reverse) would have looked like from the air.  

On a slightly positive note it looked like only the tail end of the swarm broke off towards the town - the rest seemed to be still heading off following the trio of pied pipers.   
 

It pretty much seems like morgans character is the new moral compass to rick. So if what you think happens, happens its out of left field and pretty strange. I just dont think that is at all what they were going with there man.
 

I don't know if I would go that far. Last time we saw Morgan he was trying to kill rick, Carl, and michone. He was in full breakdown mode, and most likely was killing everyone he saw (how else would he have acquired all of those weapons?) Now he's like some bad ass monk with sweet bo staff skills? It's a realy weird character thAt could go either way