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Apr 29, 2013 at 11:55:51 PM
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This is a topic worth discussion.  I'm going to trust everyone will remain civil, as opposed to the last one.  I understand this is a touchy subject for some, and if you're unable to keep yourself from slamming someone else for their opinion, keep it to yourself and find a different thread.  If not, there will be consequences. 






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Apr 29, 2013 at 11:57:53 PM
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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:01:06 AM
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Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&thr...

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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:03:24 AM
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Originally posted by: the tall guy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/reaction-to-nba...


This is a topic worth discussion.  I'm going to trust everyone will remain civil, as opposed to the last one.  I understand this is a touchy subject for some, and if you're unable to keep yourself from slamming someone else for their opinion, keep it to yourself and find a different thread.  If not, there will be consequences. 




 

I fail. Didn't know he was a mod. And its 2013. Noone cares any more. At least thats how I see the world.


Apr 30, 2013 at 12:04:49 AM
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I'm happy for the guy. Can't wait for the day where this kinda thing isn't newsworthy.

Apr 30, 2013 at 12:05:35 AM
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I was kinda thinking the same thing. Phins did bring up a good point in the closed thread though, what if this helps some gay child going through a struggle?

Also, I'm really surprised he didn't even tell his twin brother until last year!

Apr 30, 2013 at 12:06:14 AM
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Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker

Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&thr...

Topic already got locked...

He knows.  He's a mod.

 



Shocking but true, should probably polish the badge a little more often or something.



I think the guy's pretty brave, even for all the public praise, he had to have some degree of fear in coming out.

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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:09:14 AM
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Originally posted by: theguy1962

Can't wait for the day where this kinda thing isn't newsworthy.


My thoughts exactly. Why do we waste our time and dollars on stupid shit like this. We need to be spending our time on real problems that help the science and benefit of all mankind.

Apr 30, 2013 at 12:11:33 AM
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I don't follow sports and I only saw headlines on this. I don't think its newsworthy, who the hell care what this guy does off the court? Its no ones damn business, and sure as hell doesn't belong on the front page of the damn news.

Apr 30, 2013 at 12:12:35 AM
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Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

Originally posted by: theguy1962

Can't wait for the day where this kinda thing isn't newsworthy.


My thoughts exactly. Why do we waste our time and dollars on stupid shit like this. We need to be spending our time on real problems that help the science and benefit of all mankind.


How is reading about a professional athlete coming to grips with his sexuality a waste of money? How does the day where all people are comfortable enough with their sexuality to express it, and have equal rights, not a benefit to all mankind?

Apr 30, 2013 at 12:15:00 AM
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Originally posted by: p33jay

Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

Originally posted by: theguy1962

Can't wait for the day where this kinda thing isn't newsworthy.


My thoughts exactly. Why do we waste our time and dollars on stupid shit like this. We need to be spending our time on real problems that help the science and benefit of all mankind.


How is reading about a professional athlete coming to grips with his sexuality a waste of money? How does the day where all people are comfortable enough with their sexuality to express it, and have equal rights, not a benefit to all mankind?

I wasn't refering to the article itself but all the never ending legistlation that is going on concerning the issue. I think that is a waste of time and money. I think headlines like this are a waste of my time because this is something that should have been in the headline years ago and really doesn't strike me as news. 


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Good for him for finally coming out. There are several active gay professional athletes though. Granted, none in the major 4, but there are tennis players, lots of WNBA ladies, a couple guys in MLS soccer, and a few ice skating guys.

I imagine he won't be in the NBA next season (nothing to do with sexual preference) he's just not a very good player.

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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:15:23 AM
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How can anyone truly think this isn't newsworthy? This is the first person to openly declare this in any of the 4 major sports while still active. I agree, I hope at some point this isn't an issue, but unfortunately we aren't there yet as a society.

Lucas, I'm just curious what type of stuff you think we should be spending our time on? From the statistics I've seen this could benefit more of mankind than pretty much any issue congress touches lately.

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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:15:50 AM
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I don't follow basketball at all, but I think it must have been an incredibly difficult decision to come out as a gay NBA player, so I respect that. Male professional football/basketball is probably the most anti-gay workplace there is. That said, his salary for 2013 was 1.35 million, so I don't really care at all about his struggles as a gay person

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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:16:21 AM
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Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

Originally posted by: p33jay

Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

Originally posted by: theguy1962

Can't wait for the day where this kinda thing isn't newsworthy.


My thoughts exactly. Why do we waste our time and dollars on stupid shit like this. We need to be spending our time on real problems that help the science and benefit of all mankind.


How is reading about a professional athlete coming to grips with his sexuality a waste of money? How does the day where all people are comfortable enough with their sexuality to express it, and have equal rights, not a benefit to all mankind?

I wasn't refering to the article itself but all the never ending legistlation that is going on concerning the issue. I think that is a waste of time and money. I think headlines like this are a waste of my time because this is something that should have been in the headline years ago and really doesn't strike me as news. 
 

Ah that clears it up, a bit. Please elaborate on the legislation aspect, cause alot of it is pushing towards equal rights?


Apr 30, 2013 at 12:16:42 AM
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Anyone minimizing this is minimizing the struggle of gays who cant marry because of bigoted nonsense, gays dragged to death behind trucks, etc.

"Why do we worry about this?" You tell me? Why do you bash gays?

Apr 30, 2013 at 12:18:23 AM
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I'm not against gay people. In fact the majority of my co-workers are gay(I coach cheer and tumbling). That being said I think this guy just wants attention. How many people never would've heard of this guy if he hadn't done this publicly?

I do commend his bravery though to come out in the world of professional sports dominated by "macho men"

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Originally posted by: doner24

Lucas, I'm just curious what type of stuff you think we should be spending our time on? From the statistics I've seen this could benefit more of mankind than pretty much any issue congress touches lately.


Don't want to start a philosophical debate, but votes on this issue should be a no brainer. It should literally be a 5 fucking minute vote and on to the next thing. Any elected officer who disagrees really isn't in tune with the times or human rights. But instead we go around in circles... I'm just going to stop. I Don't want to get worked up.

Fuck sequestraion btw. LOL

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Originally posted by: doner24

How can anyone truly think this isn't newsworthy? This is the first person to openly declare this in any of the 4 major sports while still active.
 

Agree its newsworthy, but disagree with the active part. He technically is a part of the Wizards now, but he becomes a free agent in July after the season ends. Very interested to see if he gets signed anywhere. 



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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:19:16 AM
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EQUALITY NOW. Anti-gay marriage = anti-human rights. Period.

Apr 30, 2013 at 12:20:03 AM
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Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

Originally posted by: p33jay

Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

Originally posted by: theguy1962

Can't wait for the day where this kinda thing isn't newsworthy.


My thoughts exactly. Why do we waste our time and dollars on stupid shit like this. We need to be spending our time on real problems that help the science and benefit of all mankind.


How is reading about a professional athlete coming to grips with his sexuality a waste of money? How does the day where all people are comfortable enough with their sexuality to express it, and have equal rights, not a benefit to all mankind?

I wasn't refering to the article itself but all the never ending legistlation that is going on concerning the issue. I think that is a waste of time and money. I think headlines like this are a waste of my time because this is something that should have been in the headline years ago and really doesn't strike me as news. 
 
You mean the fact that some portion of legislation continues to vote for discriminating legislation? And before I get flamed for that, I've voted for that party in every election based on fiscal reasons, doesn't make the fact that most of their social takes are horrible (other than abortion IMO). Regardless of when you think this should've been a headline, it wasn't because no one felt comfortable enough to actually do it. Congrats to him for blazing a trail in a sport where clearly it has not been easy.



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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:20:09 AM
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I'd like to share a few things...

I'd like to talk to everyone for a second about Christopher Reeves. You know - Superman, the guy that got paralyzed and later died? Yeah - that guy.

The day he died, I became very upset. My feelings of great sadness even surprised myself. I wasn't a fan of Superman, or any of his movies really - but when I walked past the TV and learned of his death - I secretly shed a few quiet tears.
Why? - It took some thinking and then I really understood.

(please note - this is NOT for attention whoring - it is to prove a point)
I am a 34 year old man. When I was in highschool, I was 18 year old Johnny Football Hero. Captian of the defending New York State Class C champs. Even still I was extremely shy, awkward and ugly as sin. During my senior year our team was doing well again and made it back into the state playoffs to defend our title... After we defeated Saranac Lake in the State Regional, a bunch of teamates and I traveled to a local mall to discuss the game at the food court. While we we there, we got a good 'ol fashioned Upstate New York snowstorm.

On the way home - my friend (who had just got his license) was not familiar with driving in snow - crashed the car I was riding in into a telephone poll. I became paralyzed from the waist down. Nobody was drinking, drugging, goofing off - it was just a freak thing. From that point forward I was paraplegic, but after months and months of therapy - I was able to get out of the wheelchair and limp around with a cane. (still do to this day.)


Now about Mr. Reeves... 

After Christopher Reeves' injury, whenever he would make an appearance, he would force people to at least acknowledge disabilites. Just his presence sparked discussions about stem cell research and new advancements to help "people like him." He forced people to listen. When he died, I realized that - that voice - his voice, the one that keep disability in the public eye was now silenced. Nobody was left to keep people talking - to keep hoping.

Now about publically gay atheletes...

I imagine for people who are gay, when public people come out, it's the same kind of feelings. Gay people that feel ashamed, ignored, or trodden on have someone to look up to, to listen for, to cheer for. Someone that has a voice for them. Is this correct?


Whether or not someone is gay (or not) is not something I personally care about - but I gather that is precisely why gay people want stories like this to be heard. Gay people (and disabled people, and many others) experience silent stigmas that cannot be explained to someone who hasn't expoerienced them before - and they want them to stop. Having a voice out there from a person "like you" is comforting and can give you strength and hope.  

These two subjects are different in their own rights, but I hope I was able to shed some light as to why stories like this could be massively important to some...

If I am wrong, I apologize.




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Apr 30, 2013 at 12:20:36 AM
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Originally posted by: LucasWeatherby

Originally posted by: doner24

Lucas, I'm just curious what type of stuff you think we should be spending our time on? From the statistics I've seen this could benefit more of mankind than pretty much any issue congress touches lately.


Don't want to start a philosophical debate, but votes on this issue should be a no brainer. It should literally be a 5 fucking minute vote and on to the next thing. Any elected officer who disagrees really isn't in tune with the times or human rights. But instead we go around in circles... I'm just going to stop. I Don't want to get worked up.

Fuck sequestraion btw. LOL

Agreed a million percent. this should be law already (OR the law should stay out of marriage)


Apr 30, 2013 at 12:21:46 AM
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Originally posted by: Commander Santa

I'd like to share a few things...

I'd like to talk to everyone for a second about Christopher Reeves. You know - Superman, the guy that got paralyzed and later died? Yeah - that guy.

The day he died, I became very upset. My feelings of great sadness even surprised myself. I wasn't a fan of Superman, or any of his movies really - but when I walked past the TV and learned of his death - I secretly shed a few quiet tears.
Why? - It took some thinking and then I really understood.

(please note - this is NOT for attention whoring - it is to prove a point)
I am a 34 year old man. When I was in highschool, I was 18 year old Johnny Football Hero. Captian of the defending New York State Class C champs. Even still I was extremely shy, awkward and ugly as sin. During my senior year our team was doing well again and made it back into the state playoffs to defend our title... After defeated Saranac Lake in the State Regional, a bunch of teamates and I traveled to a local mall to discuss the game at the food court. While we we there, we got a good 'ol fashioned Upstate New York snowstorm.

On the way home - my friend (who had just got his license) was not familiar with driving in snow - crashed the car I was riding in into a telephone poll. I became paralyzed from the waist down. Nobody was drinking, drugging, goofing off - it was just a freak thing. From that point forward I was paraplegic, but after months and months of therapy - I was able to get out of the wheelchair and limp around with a cane. (still do to this day.)


Now about Mr. Reeves... 

After Christophert Reeves' injury, whenever he would make an appearance, he would force people to at least acknowledge disabilites. Just his presence sparkled diuscussions about stem cell research and new advancements to help "people like him." He forced people to listen. When he died, I realized that - that voice - his voice, that would keep that issue in the public eye was now silenced. Nobody was left to keep people talking - to keep hoping.

Now about publically gay atheletes...

I imagine for people who are gay, when public people come out, it's the same kind of feelings. Gay people that feel ashamed, ignored, or trodden on have someone to look up to, to listen for, to cheer for. Someone that has a voice for them. Is this correct?


The subject of being gay (or not) is not something I personally care about - but I gather that is precisely why gay people want stories like this to be heard. Gay people (and disabled people, and many others) experience silent stigmas that cannot be explained to someone who hasn't expoerienced them before - and they want them to stop. Having a voice out there from a person "like you" is comforting and can give you strength and hope.  

These two subjects are different in their own rights, but I hope I was able to shed some light as to why stories like this could be massively important to some...

If I am wrong, I apologize.


 

I was really wondering where the superman thing was going. and yeah you basically hit the nail on the head. good show man!


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