A major reason why I get discouraged from doing homebrew, is knowing how much people who work in the industry lied about technical information.  The "slow CPU" in the SNES was a hoax.  A lot of people get furious whenever I do anything "daring" with the SNES's CPU, as if they're holding on to some big secret I am about to expose.  I feel like I am just programming to fix a broken industry.  An industry that wants the SNES to be slow, and to always be that way.

I fail to understand why the opinions (or honesty) of professionals from the console video game industry 20 years ago would influence whether or not you would create a homebrew for any system. It seems to me the only valid factors are: Are games fun? Do you like games? Do you like programming games? Do you enjoy retro coding? Do you enjoy a specific system? If so, make a game for that system.

If the game is good, nobody cares.

Is this a vortex from a BBS in the 90's?

Because otherwise I agree with Derek's comment, in that "who cares" what industry people had to say about it 20-odd years ago.

Industry? Is there a such a thing after the hardware's long been obsolete?

Let them get furious. If you find out you can make a frappuccino outta the SNES's CPU, I don't care.

I am currently in an argument on YouTube over the SNES's CPU power. I showed them my Gunstar Heroes SNES port, and they responded with stuff like "Your making a PC game that is just in the style of SNES," or "Your game requires an FX chip to run on real hardware."

It's no secret that the Genesis CPU ran on a faster clock. But that doesn't change the fact that Bio-Force Ape on the NES moved sprites just as fast as Sonic the Hedgehog on the Genesis.

I don't think people really buy into Blast Processing much anymore. And I also don't think you should set out to prove that the SNES can move sprites fast. Well, I guess what I'm trying to say is don't create a game that moves fast just for the sake of having a game that moves fast. For that, you could just create a tech demo and be done with it.

Oh, those aren't tech-guys-- but rather ignorant trolls who don't know any better. Didn't you post up a demo as a proof-of-concept? iirc, it did ran stock on a SNES emulator just fine.

Why?   Don't waste your time.

Argument on youtube is not fighting an industry. If that is your measure of success you will never win.

Dude, you seem to make an awful lot of these kinds of posts.
Maybe just work on your games and forget about the trolls and ignoramuses?

Yeah, don't let anyone discourage you and say you can't do anything. Keep doing what you're doing and don't listen to the naysayers. Do what you love doing, since a lot of us (even us Sega fanboys) would love to see great minds push the limits and beyond outta the SNES.

I mean, who was the one that made SGnG a little faster on the SNES? Who's made a port of Gunstar Heroes on the SNES? (Which I'd like to see more of! lol)

You've done some awesome stuff with just those 2 examples alone. Keep at it, man.

Forget the trolls. Make the game brotha. I think you'd be fighting the home brew industry by withholding awesome games!

Thanks guys. I am feeling much better now.

I agree.

@Aaendi
If you are in the mood to laugh a bit about it, there is a wonderful strip of Randall Munroe on the subject:

http://xkcd.com/386/...

[ ...don't forget to mouse over the image! ]

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I have a joke:

Programmer- Dang this CPU is too slow.
Assistant- Maybe if you delete the pointless 500 NOPs in a row, it wouldn't be so slow?
Programmer- I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO OPTIMIZE MY CODE!!!

I am a programmer (Python, C/C++ and Assembly) and am interested in homebrew for classic consoles. I am also an active user on Sega-16 where there is a lot of SNES-bashing. However, over here it is the opposite. I however, am among the members for both forums that doesn't honestly care about CPU power as much as I do good games. SNES, Genesis, NES and SMS are among my favorite classic consoles of all time and I think arguing over 20 to 30-year old consoles is like beating a dead horse. Pretentious, and an astounding display of ignorance. The console wars should be buried by now. Each system caters to a different niche for me so I don't see why anyone would brag about CPU power on an old system. If you were to talk about CPU power from the late 80s/early 90s I'd simply give them an Amiga or Sharp X68K demo and laugh them out of the park.

You would probably have better luck porting the Gamegear game, than trying the Genesis title. but that's just my opinion.

Here is a link to an article where the President of Treasure commented that it's impossible... now prove him wrong. you may be able to.

http://megadrive.me/2011/11/03/an...

Masato Maegawa left Konami ("a big 3rd party for Nintendo") disappointed for his projects being refused, created a new business, and signed up a deal with Sega. Of course his business is now strictly related to the success of Genesis/MegaDrive. What he is supposed to say? Nintendo sales a better product?
I don't argue on his technical competences of course, but I think this hardly can be an unbiased opinion.

I'm not a fan of Nintendo or Sega, I had both companies consoles. I don't mind which one was better, whatever better could mean (to me, game concepts and playability are more important than graphics and hardware). And as someone else already said, I think it is a bit useless to argue today in this religious way about the potential performances of consoles from 20+ years ago.This holds true for either side involved. Being right or wrong, really means what?

Just my distract 2 cents.

Cheers!

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Yes, this right here. Thank you!

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