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Sep 5, 2010 at 5:29:57 PM
dangevin (219)
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Originally posted by: Benihana

Originally posted by: dangevin

Originally posted by: mb7241


Edit:  As a matter of fact, if the carts have never been tampered with, I'd almost be willing to bet every one of the 3-screw variant carts with relative rarity of 9 or higher has flathead screws.  Probably most of the 8's, as well.


I can confirm this with all the "rare" 3-screw variants that have passed through my hands. While the security screw changeover may have been part of the Rev-A plan, it wasn't implemented at the same time as the cart plastic changeover.




Does this mean we have a varient on the varient? 3 screw with flat head screws vs. 3 screw security bits. If so, it is just another thing for me to look for while I am browsing for new games.

Kinda-sorta. Since the screws are interchangable (although why would anyone want to) it's tough for me to really want to collect them. They're useful in compiling data but as far as something I'd want to pay money for or keep extra copies for, not really.


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Sep 5, 2010 at 5:31:00 PM
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Originally posted by: hybrid

Canadian variants aren't the same rarity as us ones i've seen a few soccers CAN no us



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Sep 5, 2010 at 6:52:30 PM
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Is the 3 screw gotcha harder to find? My local game shop has 4 copies and they are all 3 screw, should I pick one up at $4 each?

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Sep 5, 2010 at 6:59:51 PM
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3 screw gotcha is plentiful its the 5 screw which is the rarer

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Sep 5, 2010 at 7:46:11 PM
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My 3 screw version of Winter Games has flathead screws. And its not really that rare to find it in a 3 screw version. When I noticed it I was looking at it thinking it had a back swap, but looking at it longer I just don't think it did, especially the source.

Sep 6, 2010 at 1:35:07 AM
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I have 7, 5 screw super mario brothers carts.. worth anything? I also have 8, 5 screw gyromite carts am I rich

Sep 6, 2010 at 1:53:02 AM
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Originally posted by: coolpapachiv

I have 7, 5 screw super mario brothers carts.. worth anything? I also have 8, 5 screw gyromite carts am I rich


Check Matt's awesome thread for the variants that are worth money to certain variant collectors.  Two variants that are missing from his list are 5-screw Jaws and 3-screw Volleyball.  Both are tough to find. 

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&thr...


Sep 8, 2010 at 6:08:41 PM
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I have a 5-screw Ghosts n Goblins. Does it amount to anything special?


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Sep 8, 2010 at 8:52:29 PM
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90% of these variations aren't worth anything extra. Just a handful that are.

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Sep 14, 2010 at 2:28:34 AM
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I have a 5 screw cluclu... but its Can

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Sep 14, 2010 at 2:30:35 AM
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Originally posted by: TaiPatron

I have a 5 screw cluclu... but its Can


5 screw is the common one anyway.  It's 3 screw you gotta look out for.

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Nov 23, 2010 at 11:00:33 AM
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Originally posted by: mb7241

Originally posted by: nothingface023

And they changed the type of screws that were used. Check your 5-screw games; see the screws? You can remove them with a small flathead screwdriver. Now check your 3-screw games; can't use the flathead for those. You have to get a security bit (which is a good thing to have as a collector, anyways). They changed them for security and piracy reasons.

Not completely true:  after 5-screw carts were phased out, some 3-screw carts actually had flathead screws for a short while (probably about 6 months or so).  If I recall correctly, it was sometime in early to mid-1988 when the security screws were phased in.

Edit:  As a matter of fact, if the carts have never been tampered with, I'd almost be willing to bet every one of the 3-screw variant carts with relative rarity of 9 or higher has flathead screws.  Probably most of the 8's, as well.



After looking through alot of these posts i found ive got a 3-screw arkanoid. and youre right it does have 3 screws i can take out with a flat head screw driver.

Im guessing by what you said the 3-screw arkanoid is somewhat rare.


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Dec 16, 2010 at 10:44:04 PM
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How rare is winter games 5-screw? Even better, mine has a board variant not listed on Bootgod. It uses MMC1 instead of 2 logic chips. Probably used until they got a version to cheapen it to two logic chips. This anything extra extra special?

Dec 17, 2010 at 5:02:03 PM
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I see 5-screw Winter Games fairly often when I'm out and about. Dunno about the MMC1 thing; the one I have here has the logic chips.

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Well then the binaries must be different, anyone have any carts to verify it, and even better, bump and compare binaries between the logic and MMC1 versions? I don't have a CopyNES to dump it. :/

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Bumps.....anyone mind checking their Winter Games cart for a rarity "feel" of this revision with the MMC1?

Dec 24, 2010 at 3:25:05 PM
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Hey all, sorry if the bump is unnecessary. Is the list above complete or is it still live?

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Dec 25, 2010 at 3:03:06 AM
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I found a super pitfall on ebay other day in a 5 screw in very nice condition. I actually never knew that game was in a 5 screw until I saw the picture of it on ebay.

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Jan 17, 2011 at 11:06:02 PM
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didn't know where else to ask this, but: i found a 5 screw Rush N' Attack for $4.99. should I grab it for that price or is it not really something worth $5?

Jan 17, 2011 at 11:13:20 PM
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Originally posted by: uiengineer

didn't know where else to ask this, but: i found a 5 screw Rush N' Attack for $4.99. should I grab it for that price or is it not really something worth $5?


The 5-screw version of Rush'n Attack is the harder to find of the two versions, but it's not super rare or anything.  I guess you could pick it up if you plan on playing it, but you'll probably find it in a lot eventually.  Bottom line, it's not something I would "rush" out to buy.

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Jan 17, 2011 at 11:39:59 PM
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that is kind of what i was wondering. Thanks andy

Jan 20, 2011 at 7:20:05 PM
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Can you tell if a cartridge is a 5 screw by the label? Really interested to know more about the 5 screw Mega Man and seeing to how you can by seeing a label

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Jan 20, 2011 at 9:36:19 PM
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Sort of. If you look at the top label, look to the left and right of it. If the gray part of the cart is flat and smooth, you have a 5 screw. If you see a little gray plastic hinge, it's a 3 screw.

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Jan 20, 2011 at 10:29:36 PM
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Yeah, they're actually referring to the physical number of screws holding the cart together. The 3 screw cart used the "hinges" (for lack of a better term) that Andy refers to instead of the two screws in the corner. This was presumably to save money on production by reducing the number of screws needed to make a cart (a few cents here or there adds up when you produce in huge numbers). Even if you see a cart perfectly straight on, unless you have a blurry picture you can easily tell once you know what to look for (hard to explain, but when you compare both side by side it's obvious).

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Originally posted by: kryptk33p3r

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Jan 20, 2011 at 11:12:31 PM
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Originally posted by: the_wizard_666

Yeah, they're actually referring to the physical number of screws holding the cart together. The 3 screw cart used the "hinges" (for lack of a better term) that Andy refers to instead of the two screws in the corner. This was presumably to save money on production by reducing the number of screws needed to make a cart (a few cents here or there adds up when you produce in huge numbers). Even if you see a cart perfectly straight on, unless you have a blurry picture you can easily tell once you know what to look for (hard to explain, but when you compare both side by side it's obvious).


Precisely.  This is why blurry pics on eBay suck ass.  Is it really that hard to take a clean, focused picture of a cartridge?  When you can't see the top of the cart clearly in the pic, it's just a pain for a variant hunter.

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