Originally posted by: TENGEN
Originally posted by: Of games
There are no websites for PAL-A collectors(there's retrocollect which is a small forum for UK collectors but I don't know anything about it.)
That fact alone should make NA set up a PAL collecting section and open the database up to variants like Of games described.
Occasionally I stumble across PAL items that I've never seen before and can't find a single trace of on Google. Why can't NA open up a PAL room and fill that void?
In terms of database stuff, how would you suggest it be handled?
Every country had a different distributor; each country had multiple distributors at different times; some games were distributed by different distributors in the same country, at different times.
Product codes do not follow the standard system: -ITA(Box code) games were sold in Australia and Italy, while some -UKV(Box code) games were sold in Australia as well as the UK, oficially(so they weren't just imported by shops), and the only difference between the UKV and Australian one is a sticker or sometimes an insert added -- or sometimes, there is no different at all and you don't know.
Original black box games tha had "AUS/GBR/ITA" on the box had a difference in cart and manual: on the carts in Australia and the UK, they had "EAI" on the back. In Italy, they had "ITA" on the back. The manuals sold in Italy were in Italian(with the code ITA), and the manuals in both the UK and Australia were in English(with the code GBR.) There was never a "AUS" code for black box games(expect SMB, but that was NES-SM-AUS)
Then we've got variants such as Total Recall, which depending on the time they were sold in Australia, they received an extremely small text change about the reccomended age, but with no code change on the box; the codes also conflict with the Italian version, which shared the same code NES-xx-ITA(-1). The Australian version with the reccomended age in English at the bottom left, above the seal:
http://nintendoagemedia.com/eleme...
And the Italian one with it in English and Italian, above the Acclaim logo:
http://oi63.tinypic.com/6hlr8h.jp...
The manual system also has no clear system of variation either as I mentioned: there exists -1s -2s, etc., but sometimes they don't have any differences at all: there's seemingly no reason for there to be a revision code on them.
Oh and did I mention the variants of when Mattel S.p.A became Mattel S.R.L(both Italian distributors depending on the time.)
Anyways, a database for these variants would likely be useless, since people mix and match things a lot, and there's no way to confirm that two items "belong" to eachother unless it's new, or somebody knows it for a fact, such as from their childhood.
I did talk to Dain previously about making "Distributor" a displayable section in the database, which would ease up the PAL-A stuff a bit(but more completely, as mentioned), but I don't think there's any concrete plans to do that yet. You'd also need to be able to set the country a game was from, since the current system doesn't work for Australian -ITA games, such as TMNT being displayed as an Italian game.
If you find obscure PAL stuff, I'd reccomend posting here in the Collector's Corner, since people such as myself and certain other people knowledgable about PAL regions do check it out from time to time. I think a PAL section would be very very dead if it was made