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Final scoreboard posted. Sorry about the slow response on updates. New house stuff has definitely kept me busy, busy enough to not have time (nor a hooked up console) to play this past week.

Great job to everyone though!

I legit started this contest disliking this game and having no idea what the heck I was doing. It's crazy that I finished in third place.

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Great job to everyone though! ]]> NintendoAge 2017 Weekly Contests Presents: Klax http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=175530 2017-07-24T10:21:53 -05.00 bimmy_lee 272 Originally posted by: Bea_Iank
 
Originally posted by: ninjistar
 
Originally posted by: Bea_Iank
 
Originally posted by: Red
 
Originally posted by: mbd39
 
Originally posted by: Red
 
Originally posted by: Bea_Iank

If you are giving it last minute tries, I will as well to get that 3+ millions score.  


Haha, don't stress yourself out.  I'm just going to post my (lower than yours) score from earlier in the week.

Just how hard is the 2.2M combo to setup? Did you do it? Can you get it almost every time with the right pattern?

 

I think all the high scoring combos in Wave 1 are more luck than anything.  Easy if you get the right blocks, imposible if you don't.  Sadly, I never legitimately got the biggest combo (I turned the drop meter off for the picture I posted showing the combo set up).  I did get the right blocks in one game, but I was already set up for another combo at the time.
 

It is doable, but very, very difficult.
The tile patterns are fixed, so you can plan in advance just by looking to the starting tile on the paddle, the colour and position of the first tile on the belt.
Reset till you get the pattern you want and get the big combo. I usually get the 1.7 million combo instead because the 2.2 is too risky and I have too many tiles on the belt at the end.
Better get a smaller combo and make to wave 2 than to screw up everything by being greedy.

 
Based on your post with the array of tiles, I began analysis of the patterns late last night. I don't yet have conslusive evidence to show this, but you can see patterns in the data. It's worth noting that wave 1 does not appear to ever spawn anything but light blue, pink, yellow, or red tiles. I've not completed analysis of wave 2, but it does add a tile (and I don't have enough data yet to know if it's one tile or a set of tiles). This is a behavioral analysis from game play, not reverse engineering of the code, so there is likely more to it.

 

The RNG code in this game is overly simplistic.
And as per the nature of pseudo random random number generator codes, it is deterministic.
 

I've been thinking that there is an advantage to playing this on an emulator because of the amount of resets required to get the desired pattern of tiles. I'd be afraid of wrecking my NES from resetting it that much.
  ]]> NintendoAge 2017 Weekly Contests Presents: Klax http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=175530 2017-07-24T07:13:48 -05.00 bimmy_lee 272 Originally posted by: ninjistar
 
Originally posted by: Yoshi
 
Originally posted by: ninjistar

As usual, I didn't give myself enough time for this game. Here's my score. I hope you love it!

686,800


 

Where did your Airman figure come from? Looks cool.
 

I bought it online somewhere. I think it was made by Bandai. It's definitely from Japan. I don't recall the company now. Guts has a Cutman that is equally cool that I've not bought yet.
 
Oh, there are more? Nice!  Thanks for the information, I'll have to keep an eye out for them.

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Originally posted by: bearcat-doug

Originally posted by: guillavoie

Originally posted by: skinnygrinny

it must have been me who mentioned gunmo? yes! meerkat how the hell you rank sandafloor better than kobra kai?!!! i crushed him in DD!! plus hes got like 1 1/2 wins to my 15-20!!!

You shouldn't be too much worried about Doug's rankings, lol.
 



Hey, it was a typo! That interview literally lasted four weeks!   I'm still sticking with the me being second to Tom ranking though.  

I personally, completely and absolutely agree with you, but,


it seems the numbers don't, haha! Aren't you sure your 2013 arch rival wasn't Vectrex instead?  




Good one! I guess technically we were both still second to Tom.   ]]> NintendoAge 2017 Weekly Contests Presents: Klax http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=175530 2017-07-24T05:49:29 -05.00 bimmy_lee 272 Originally posted by: guillavoie
 
Originally posted by: bearcat-doug
 
Originally posted by: guillavoie
 
Originally posted by: skinnygrinny

it must have been me who mentioned gunmo? yes! meerkat how the hell you rank sandafloor better than kobra kai?!!! i crushed him in DD!! plus hes got like 1 1/2 wins to my 15-20!!!

You shouldn't be too much worried about Doug's rankings, lol.
 



Hey, it was a typo! That interview literally lasted four weeks!   I'm still sticking with the me being second to Tom ranking though.  

I personally, completely and absolutely agree with you, but,


it seems the numbers don't, haha! Aren't you sure your 2013 arch rival wasn't Vectrex instead?  
 
Ohhh! Burn.  
  ]]> NintendoAge 2017 Weekly Contests Presents: Klax http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=175530 2017-07-24T05:21:26 -05.00 bimmy_lee 272 Originally posted by: ninjistar
 
Originally posted by: Bea_Iank
 
Originally posted by: Red
 
Originally posted by: mbd39
 
Originally posted by: Red
 
Originally posted by: Bea_Iank

If you are giving it last minute tries, I will as well to get that 3+ millions score.  


Haha, don't stress yourself out.  I'm just going to post my (lower than yours) score from earlier in the week.

Just how hard is the 2.2M combo to setup? Did you do it? Can you get it almost every time with the right pattern?

 

I think all the high scoring combos in Wave 1 are more luck than anything.  Easy if you get the right blocks, imposible if you don't.  Sadly, I never legitimately got the biggest combo (I turned the drop meter off for the picture I posted showing the combo set up).  I did get the right blocks in one game, but I was already set up for another combo at the time.
 

It is doable, but very, very difficult.
The tile patterns are fixed, so you can plan in advance just by looking to the starting tile on the paddle, the colour and position of the first tile on the belt.
Reset till you get the pattern you want and get the big combo. I usually get the 1.7 million combo instead because the 2.2 is too risky and I have too many tiles on the belt at the end.
Better get a smaller combo and make to wave 2 than to screw up everything by being greedy.

 
Based on your post with the array of tiles, I began analysis of the patterns late last night. I don't yet have conslusive evidence to show this, but you can see patterns in the data. It's worth noting that wave 1 does not appear to ever spawn anything but light blue, pink, yellow, or red tiles. I've not completed analysis of wave 2, but it does add a tile (and I don't have enough data yet to know if it's one tile or a set of tiles). This is a behavioral analysis from game play, not reverse engineering of the code, so there is likely more to it.

 
The RNG code in this game is overly simplistic.
And as per the nature of pseudo random random number generator codes, it is deterministic.
  ]]> NintendoAge 2017 Weekly Contests Presents: Klax http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=175530 2017-07-24T01:44:42 -05.00 bimmy_lee 272 Originally posted by: guillavoie
 
Originally posted by: bearcat-doug
 
Originally posted by: guillavoie
 
Originally posted by: skinnygrinny

it must have been me who mentioned gunmo? yes! meerkat how the hell you rank sandafloor better than kobra kai?!!! i crushed him in DD!! plus hes got like 1 1/2 wins to my 15-20!!!
You shouldn't be too much worried about Doug's rankings, lol.
Hey, it was a typo! That interview literally lasted four weeks!   I'm still sticking with the me being second to Tom ranking though.  
I personally, completely and absolutely agree with you, but,
it seems the numbers don't, haha! Aren't you sure your 2013 arch rival wasn't Vectrex instead?   lol! hey i made it. im the worlds greatest. ]]> NintendoAge 2017 Weekly Contests Presents: Klax http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=175530 2017-07-24T01:13:44 -05.00 bimmy_lee 272 Originally posted by: bearcat-doug

Originally posted by: guillavoie

Originally posted by: skinnygrinny

it must have been me who mentioned gunmo? yes! meerkat how the hell you rank sandafloor better than kobra kai?!!! i crushed him in DD!! plus hes got like 1 1/2 wins to my 15-20!!!

You shouldn't be too much worried about Doug's rankings, lol.
 



Hey, it was a typo! That interview literally lasted four weeks!   I'm still sticking with the me being second to Tom ranking though.  
I personally, completely and absolutely agree with you, but,


it seems the numbers don't, haha! Aren't you sure your 2013 arch rival wasn't Vectrex instead?  

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