NintendoAge http://nintendoage.com/forum/ -Sqooner Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-05-12T22:01:36 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-04-02T11:49:40 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Originally posted by: Mog
 
Originally posted by: CZroe
 
Originally posted by: bunnyboy

Just cut that trace on each end and rewire it instead of trying to avoid it. It is power so doing that won't affect anything.

I had some braces printed but I didn't have confidence in the tolerances. Slightly too small means the port could still move enough to eventually be a problem. Probably would need somewhere like shapeways who has good repeatability. The cost there is probably the same as shipping to have the real fix done. Then I switched from AutoCAD to SolidWorks and by the time I learned enough to design things I hadn't started that project again.
Anyone using 3D printers is used to this. Perhaps you can release it deliberately oversized where the installer just files it down until it fits tight?
 

Here you go. Start filing!   

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing...
  LOL! Nice work.  

  ]]> Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-04-02T11:42:21 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Originally posted by: CZroe

Originally posted by: bunnyboy

Just cut that trace on each end and rewire it instead of trying to avoid it. It is power so doing that won't affect anything.

I had some braces printed but I didn't have confidence in the tolerances. Slightly too small means the port could still move enough to eventually be a problem. Probably would need somewhere like shapeways who has good repeatability. The cost there is probably the same as shipping to have the real fix done. Then I switched from AutoCAD to SolidWorks and by the time I learned enough to design things I hadn't started that project again.
Anyone using 3D printers is used to this. Perhaps you can release it deliberately oversized where the installer just files it down until it fits tight?
 
Here you go. Start filing!   

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2847899

]]> Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-04-02T10:18:03 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Originally posted by: Ichinisan
 
Originally posted by: darkchylde28
 
Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Those are grounded anchoring tabs. Not electrical traces. That's the perfect spot to hold it down.

[edit]
Oh. You mean the underside. Yeah, it's still pretty easy to do that if you're not careless. 

I get that you and your brother work on that type of thing regularly, but you're being awfully flippant about drilling a very small hole next to some very tiny traces.  Yeah, people shouldn't be careless, but this is clearly an example where someone probably ought to have experience and confidence in their ability to pull it off.  Inferring, "Well, it's easy to do if you don't suck" isn't necessary and definitely doesn't endear you to most.  Most folks with little or no solder experience will be able to take one look and know they're out of their depth; most folks who work on these types of things regularly are still going to pause pretty hard when looking at precisely where those two holes are.  Is it relatively easily fixable if you break the trace (which bunnyboy recommends doing)?  Sure.  But a lot of folks on here (and elsewhere, I'd imagine) would prefer to have everything as 100% factory, unrepaired, etc. as possible.  No need to simultaneously humblebrag on your own skills and subtly put down others'.


I was under the impression this was a warranty repair / manufacturing rework. Done by someone who does lots of them. Not performed by end user.

Still, jack replacement / augmentation and bypassing traces is something nearly any modder or repair person has needed to do. Even if RetroUSB doesn't exist in 50 years, I still don't think OP would be out of luck. That's what OP wanted to know. ...but the perspective is from an end user who would currently get it dealt with under warranty, meaning, cheap or free. A typical repair and mod work guy probably isn’t doing it for free. Not apples to apples. ]]> Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-04-02T10:13:56 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Originally posted by: bunnyboy

Just cut that trace on each end and rewire it instead of trying to avoid it. It is power so doing that won't affect anything.

I had some braces printed but I didn't have confidence in the tolerances. Slightly too small means the port could still move enough to eventually be a problem. Probably would need somewhere like shapeways who has good repeatability. The cost there is probably the same as shipping to have the real fix done. Then I switched from AutoCAD to SolidWorks and by the time I learned enough to design things I hadn't started that project again. Anyone using 3D printers is used to this. Perhaps you can release it deliberately oversized where the installer just files it down until it fits tight?
  ]]> Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-04-02T09:56:51 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Originally posted by: darkchylde28
 
Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Those are grounded anchoring tabs. Not electrical traces. That's the perfect spot to hold it down.

[edit]
Oh. You mean the underside. Yeah, it's still pretty easy to do that if you're not careless. 

I get that you and your brother work on that type of thing regularly, but you're being awfully flippant about drilling a very small hole next to some very tiny traces.  Yeah, people shouldn't be careless, but this is clearly an example where someone probably ought to have experience and confidence in their ability to pull it off.  Inferring, "Well, it's easy to do if you don't suck" isn't necessary and definitely doesn't endear you to most.  Most folks with little or no solder experience will be able to take one look and know they're out of their depth; most folks who work on these types of things regularly are still going to pause pretty hard when looking at precisely where those two holes are.  Is it relatively easily fixable if you break the trace (which bunnyboy recommends doing)?  Sure.  But a lot of folks on here (and elsewhere, I'd imagine) would prefer to have everything as 100% factory, unrepaired, etc. as possible.  No need to simultaneously humblebrag on your own skills and subtly put down others'.

I was under the impression this was a warranty repair / manufacturing rework. Done by someone who does lots of them. Not performed by end user.

Still, jack replacement / augmentation and bypassing traces is something nearly any modder or repair person has needed to do. Even if RetroUSB doesn't exist in 50 years, I still don't think OP would be out of luck. That's what OP wanted to know. ]]> Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-04-02T09:51:44 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Those are grounded anchoring tabs. Not electrical traces. That's the perfect spot to hold it down.

[edit]
Oh. You mean the underside. Yeah, it's still pretty easy to do that if you're not careless. 
I get that you and your brother work on that type of thing regularly, but you're being awfully flippant about drilling a very small hole next to some very tiny traces.  Yeah, people shouldn't be careless, but this is clearly an example where someone probably ought to have experience and confidence in their ability to pull it off.  Inferring, "Well, it's easy to do if you don't suck" isn't necessary and definitely doesn't endear you to most.  Most folks with little or no solder experience will be able to take one look and know they're out of their depth; most folks who work on these types of things regularly are still going to pause pretty hard when looking at precisely where those two holes are.  Is it relatively easily fixable if you break the trace (which bunnyboy recommends doing)?  Sure.  But a lot of folks on here (and elsewhere, I'd imagine) would prefer to have everything as 100% factory, unrepaired, etc. as possible.  No need to simultaneously humblebrag on your own skills and subtly put down others'. ]]> Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-03-29T21:26:24 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Originally posted by: bunnyboy

Just cut that trace on each end and rewire it instead of trying to avoid it. It is power so doing that won't affect anything.

I had some braces printed but I didn't have confidence in the tolerances. Slightly too small means the port could still move enough to eventually be a problem. Probably would need somewhere like shapeways who has good repeatability. The cost there is probably the same as shipping to have the real fix done. Then I switched from AutoCAD to SolidWorks and by the time I learned enough to design things I hadn't started that project again.

So would you advise us to ship our AVS' back to you to have the fix done if we're concerned about it breaking in the future? Or does that only apply if the port actually breaks? ]]> Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-03-29T21:19:41 -05.00 mattysaurus 21 Originally posted by: darkchylde28
 
Originally posted by: mattysaurus

I'm going to go ahead email support and see if we can get an update *crosses fingers.*

Personally, I'd rather have a couple holes drilled than have my power port snap off in 5-10 years. As long as it's nowhere near a trace it shouldn't affect stability. Does anyone have a photo of what the finished repair job looks like?

lol, the screws are actually exactly near tiny traces coming off the port.  Here are the photos of the reinforcement done by bunnyboy himself.



 
Those are grounded anchoring tabs. Not electrical traces. That's the perfect spot to hold it down.

[edit]
Oh. You mean the underside. Yeah, it's still pretty easy to do that if you're not careless.  ]]> Help me understand the launch system Mini USB Defect http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=106&threadid=181046 2018-03-29T21:10:51 -05.00 mattysaurus 21
I had some braces printed but I didn't have confidence in the tolerances. Slightly too small means the port could still move enough to eventually be a problem. Probably would need somewhere like shapeways who has good repeatability. The cost there is probably the same as shipping to have the real fix done. Then I switched from AutoCAD to SolidWorks and by the time I learned enough to design things I hadn't started that project again. ]]>