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This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-18T03:20:27 -05.00

This whole ageism towards the younger generation by the older generation is nothing new (I can only imagine what it was like in the late 60s). You'd think most people would know better than this but I guess a habit that's been going on since at least the time of Socarties doesn't go away overnight.

PS: Can you believe those hippies from the 60s (which is probably the generation gap of all generation gaps) are now around retirement age???

This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-18T00:25:56 -05.00

Originally posted by: leatherrebel5150

Originally posted by: sadikyo

Ignorance of important issues and lack of education about history or anything else is not limited to any one segment of people, such as Millennials.

I find the negativity against millennials (commenting in general here, not specifically this thread) to be extremely unfair and exhausting. There may in fact be some general similarities or traits that could be more common in millennials or a particular group of people, but it feels like people completely discount any 'positive' traits or positive contributions from the group, and focus only on the negative stereotypes. And for what? To make ourselves feel better? So much effort is spent targeting other groups of people and pointing out all of the reasons why they are bad or stupid or lazy or whatever else. This isn't even the first piece of news shared here attempting to highlight some statistic that makes millennials look bad or stupid. It just feels a bit like a bunch of old grumpy people complaining about 'kids these days,' and I'm not sure that is really constructive.

I guess it feels good standing on top of the mountain, looking down on everyone else and classifying them into little buckets of bad. Group A goes in the lazy bucket. Group B goes in the stupid bucket. But we don't put ourselves in any particular bucket that is attached to something bad, only the good things.

Again, this isn't really targeting any person or comment here, it is more a general response to all of the millennial-bashing I see. I just hope we can sometimes look in the mirror and see that we all have our faults, our failures, our traits, but there is good and bad in all of us, and I wish we would try to look for the good in others instead of only the bad.

Is it ok to generalize millenials if Im one of them? Because most of the time generalizations exist because some common trait exists. In this case a lack of historical knowledge. And it is crazy common amongst us (millenials) to not know diddly shit about history. Though your right I dont put myself in that bucket because i do tend to know more historical stuff than any one of my given peers (thats not saying much but its true). That being said your are right there is always a positive as well. Millenials tend to be more concerned with other people and there emotions/well being and im certainly not. So each side has a point here

Being the jaded person that I am, when I think of millenials (and, I've taught many of them) the word that comes to my mind is "entitled". Not "lazy" nor "dumb", but entitled. Mmmm, in some ways you could argue that lazy and dumb are correlated with entitled, and I would not disagree. Also, I don't think I'm the only that has this perspective...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4232696/Millenials-generation-huge-sense-entitlement.html

‘I was stunned that she was so focused on her own appearance that altering the picture took precedence over any money that it might raise for those in need.

‘But, in hindsight, I shouldn’t have been at all surprised. In my experience, her generation can be entirely self-obsessed and an utter pain to work with.’

Of course, it's not fair to say everyone, or perhaps even a majority are "entitled". However, there certainly are enough that it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

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This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-17T17:26:29 -05.00

Originally posted by: JamesRobot

Originally posted by: Estil
Blah blah blah Judge Judy blah blah.

Hey! She's the boss, applesauce!

I don't think so!
https://youtu.be/ZtKqQNpFJCo

This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-15T11:58:30 -05.00

Originally posted by: JamesRobot

Originally posted by: Estil

Blah blah blah Judge Judy blah blah.

Hey! She's the boss, applesauce!

Don't judge me, judge Judy!

This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-15T11:02:39 -05.00

This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-15T11:02:07 -05.00

Originally posted by: Estil

Blah blah blah Judge Judy blah blah.

Hey! She's the boss, applesauce!

This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-15T09:33:02 -05.00

This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-15T09:18:47 -05.00

Agreed. Ageism is just as wrong as racism or sexism or any other -ism.

This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-15T08:58:16 -05.00

Originally posted by: Natty Bumppo

Originally posted by: Estil

You wanna know one not-so-fun fact that I find especially sad? Not only do more people know who Judge Judy is than they know who the Chief Justice of the United States is (John Roberts) but how about the fact that this fake "judge" (these kind of shows are actually binding arbitrations despite the "appearance" of a court room...and real life small claims judges/arbitrators do NOT act like Judy) makes about 10x more money a year than all nine justices of the US Supreme Court combined!!

Not to throw rocks at you (and I am not a big fan of such shows) but to be fair the two parties on those shows agree to the binding arbitration aspect voluntarily. For them it is actually a win win - the show provides a sum of money that
is used to pay the "fines". Let's say the fund is $1000 (not sure what it actually is) - the "fine" is taken from the $1000 (given to the "winner") and the remainder is split between the two parties. So both sides stand to gain from the proceedings since the amounts involved are generally pretty small. And the "winner" doesn't then have to take any steps to actually collect what they are due.

True but my main concern (aside from the fact that the participants are "coached" to say stupid facepalm worthy comments to create drama) is that, as Joseph Wapner of Peoples Court fame pointed out, is that those like "Judge" Judy with their loudmouth mean spiritedness are giving viewers the wrong idea of how small claims court or arbitration is supposed to work. I don't care if I was a plantiff with an open and shut case or a defendant as innocent as a newborn kitty...I would never subject myself to such loud mouth abrasiveness on national TV (and let's not forget YouTube!!!).

This is pretty discouraging.....

Natty Bumppo — 2018-04-15T08:17:59 -05.00

@Sadikyo

Having worked in higher education for most of my working life (before retiring) it is not so much that millennials are apparently having some problems. It has been a fairly consistent slide in both reasoning ability and general basic knowledge - just the snowball has been getting bigger as it has rolled along. (And of course this doesn't apply to everyone in any one group). Unless it is tied into genetics and we are somehow de-evolving, innate basic human intelligence can't be changing.

There have always been people (of any generation) who don't operate up to speed (and there is nothing innately wrong with that - people are people in the final analysis) - that is part of the human condition - but the percentage seems to be consistently increasing. And that causes concern for me in terms of what it means for our society - especially down the road.

I suspect much of the problem lies with changes to our society (often via technology) that manifest themselves in education and perceptions/attitudes held by the members of society. Sometimes those changes have a tremendous amount of potential good - but they can also be an unintentional trojan horse.

As an example, lets look at hand held calculators - when I was growing up they didn't exist - so we had to do everything in our heads (for simple things)
or do it on paper. By doing so most people understood the process of what they were doing. I have noticed that a lot of people much younger than me (say 20 years) are heavily reliant on calculators (or computers) and as a result don't really understand the mechanics of what they are doing. Take away those devices and they can't do very much in comparison to people in my age frame. Doesn't make me better in any way - but it does mean I have some (admittedly rudimentary) math skills that are being shunted aside in much of the populace. (And I too use calculators so my skills are not what they used to be back when - but they would recover pretty quickly if push came to shove).

It is too simplistic to blame/focus on/target any one group - what needs to be looked at is what is causing problems. We can pretend that these things aren't happening (or worse perhaps minimize/justify them) - but only at our own peril.