NintendoAge http://nintendoage.com/forum/ -Sqooner Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-22T11:15:30 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15
This one doesn't seem very prototype-ish to me, but who knows! ]]>
Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-21T12:38:52 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15 Originally posted by: BeaglePuss

I'm just going off past experiences. In my opinion, this game presents more like a retail cart and less like a prototype.

That was my impression looking at it. It's on that line of early retail/late preproduction, which can be a gray area for the unlicensed shops. Do you have any Camerica protos to compare?

I found some references to early retail Micro Machines(?) carts not having switches. I couldn't find anything in bootgod's db with that board id, nor any entries with an eprom. I'm curious how the data compares to a retail dump. ]]>
Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-21T12:26:18 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15


Ba dum tssss ]]>
Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-21T11:36:54 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15 Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-21T10:11:22 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15 Originally posted by: BeaglePuss
 
Originally posted by: CZroe
 
Originally posted by: Skorp

^ That's what I thought as well, which is why I didn't bid. It just looked far away from being an actual prototype.
 
Originally posted by: BeaglePuss

That's a retail game without a label. That's no prototype.


Uhh, did you look at the updated pictures? It's almost certainly a proto.

1) There's a "D" sticker on the ROM presumably covering a UV erasure window
2) There are many PCB jumpers and reworks
3) The PCB differs from the known PCB
4) There is a hole for the switches but no switches

It's almost certainly a proto.

I saw the pictures, and I still don't feel as though it's a prototype.  It's not terribly uncommon for unlicensed games to have EPROMs in them, and there are instances of Camerica (retail) games having jumpers.  There are also variants that included/don't include the back switch, so that's not a certainty either.  

Camerica games are some of the most common games to be mistaken for prototypes, and I feel like this copy is no different.
 
This particular game does use mask ROMs on the retail version. 
Chances are good that this is a proto. ]]>
Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-21T10:10:29 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15 Originally posted by: daillest

Actually Camerica prototypes I have seen have mask roms not EPROMs
As do the retail boards. It's very likely that some of the "prototypes" with mask ROMs were as BeaglePuss described: mistaken or fake protos. It's not unheard of for some protos to use mask ROMs but even then there would usually be EPROM protos used earlier in the development process.
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Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-21T09:55:40 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15 Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-21T07:05:37 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15 Originally posted by: CZroe
 
Originally posted by: Skorp

^ That's what I thought as well, which is why I didn't bid. It just looked far away from being an actual prototype.
 
Originally posted by: BeaglePuss

That's a retail game without a label. That's no prototype.


Uhh, did you look at the updated pictures? It's almost certainly a proto.

1) There's a "D" sticker on the ROM presumably covering a UV erasure window
2) There are many PCB jumpers and reworks
3) The PCB differs from the known PCB
4) There is a hole for the switches but no switches

It's almost certainly a proto.
I saw the pictures, and I still don't feel as though it's a prototype.  It's not terribly uncommon for unlicensed games to have EPROMs in them, and there are instances of Camerica (retail) games having jumpers.  There are also variants that included/don't include the back switch, so that's not a certainty either.  

Camerica games are some of the most common games to be mistaken for prototypes, and I feel like this copy is no different.
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Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-21T05:44:33 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15 Odd Camerica cartridge? (The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy?) http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=157352 2016-01-20T22:58:30 -05.00 Armageddon Potato 15 Originally posted by: Skorp

^ That's what I thought as well, which is why I didn't bid. It just looked far away from being an actual prototype.
Originally posted by: BeaglePuss

That's a retail game without a label. That's no prototype.


Uhh, did you look at the updated pictures? It's almost certainly a proto.

1) There's a "D" sticker on the ROM presumably covering a UV erasure window
2) There are many PCB jumpers and reworks
3) The PCB differs from the known PCB
4) There is a hole for the switches but no switches

It's almost certainly a proto. ]]>