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NintendoAge http://nintendoage.com/forum/ -Sqooner Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-26T17:04:16 -05.00 Zing 36
You know the industry is in a sad, sad state when the most exciting Wii U news is a potential Earthbound "re-release". Are people really going to buy a brand new system just to download and emulate a game that was released nearly 20 years ago? ]]> Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-26T15:44:17 -05.00 Zing 36 Originally posted by: Space Jockey

Originally posted by: dra600n

What's with all the hate on Xbox? Seriously some blatant hate with no real reason behind it.

Here's my take on the current generation: PS3 and 360 are even with their features and library. Some will lean toward the PS3, other the 360. The features and what it can and can't do or do well are also another thing. I prefer the 360 as the load times are faster, the online experience is better, and it's proven to be more secure with customer data than Sony. Aside from that, it has an excellent library, and while the RRoD was prevalent in the beginning, it's been fixed (unless you abuse your consoles). The PS3 had the SAME issue, as well as drive failure rates. Nothing is perfect these day.

It seems like those who hate the Xbox are just jumping on the anti-fanboiiii wagon and haven't actually experienced the system. The PS3 is a great machine in its own way, but there's so many updates and patches pushed down, it's ridiculous. Each game you have to install the trophies, the load times suck, and the interface is very cumbersome compared to the 360.

The Wii was fun for a few minutes when it first came out, but after that, I got bored with having to swing my arms around to play games. I think most people feel the same way about that.

Bored or just out of shape? It's another method of doing things instead of having to press a button to swing the sword. We all grew up pressing buttons to swing swords for over 20 years. I personally like that there is something different out there. Not because I love it, even though I do enjoy it sometimes, but because it doesn't have to follow the mainstream.

Smart ass Oh, don't get me wrong, it was great when it first came out. The novelty wore off quickly after. I got tired of having to aim for Twilight Princess, or having to swing my arm for bowling. At that point, I'd rather just go to the bowling alley. When I put in 10+ hour days at work, the last thing I want to do is swing my arm around. Some games you don't have an option, and the other games that were multi platform, I'd rather just play with the rest of my titles. ]]> Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-26T15:40:32 -05.00 Zing 36 Originally posted by: dra600n

What's with all the hate on Xbox? Seriously some blatant hate with no real reason behind it.

Here's my take on the current generation: PS3 and 360 are even with their features and library. Some will lean toward the PS3, other the 360. The features and what it can and can't do or do well are also another thing. I prefer the 360 as the load times are faster, the online experience is better, and it's proven to be more secure with customer data than Sony. Aside from that, it has an excellent library, and while the RRoD was prevalent in the beginning, it's been fixed (unless you abuse your consoles). The PS3 had the SAME issue, as well as drive failure rates. Nothing is perfect these day.

It seems like those who hate the Xbox are just jumping on the anti-fanboiiii wagon and haven't actually experienced the system. The PS3 is a great machine in its own way, but there's so many updates and patches pushed down, it's ridiculous. Each game you have to install the trophies, the load times suck, and the interface is very cumbersome compared to the 360.

The Wii was fun for a few minutes when it first came out, but after that, I got bored with having to swing my arms around to play games. I think most people feel the same way about that.
Bored or just out of shape? It's another method of doing things instead of having to press a button to swing the sword. We all grew up pressing buttons to swing swords for over 20 years. I personally like that there is something different out there. Not because I love it, even though I do enjoy it sometimes, but because it doesn't have to follow the mainstream.

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Here's my take on the current generation: PS3 and 360 are even with their features and library. Some will lean toward the PS3, other the 360. The features and what it can and can't do or do well are also another thing. I prefer the 360 as the load times are faster, the online experience is better, and it's proven to be more secure with customer data than Sony. Aside from that, it has an excellent library, and while the RRoD was prevalent in the beginning, it's been fixed (unless you abuse your consoles). The PS3 had the SAME issue, as well as drive failure rates. Nothing is perfect these day.

It seems like those who hate the Xbox are just jumping on the anti-fanboiiii wagon and haven't actually experienced the system. The PS3 is a great machine in its own way, but there's so many updates and patches pushed down, it's ridiculous. Each game you have to install the trophies, the load times suck, and the interface is very cumbersome compared to the 360.

The Wii was fun for a few minutes when it first came out, but after that, I got bored with having to swing my arms around to play games. I think most people feel the same way about that. ]]> Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-26T13:39:26 -05.00 Zing 36
Something about the WiiU has a pull with me, its probably the EB VC release... and I already have a tablet. ]]> Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-26T11:27:00 -05.00 Zing 36 Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-26T10:35:32 -05.00 Zing 36
all the sudden my $60 game was incomplete in less than a month. I look at DLC as a poster child for the decline of the gaming industry, shows just how much respect companies have for their fans. They look at us like cows to me milked.
]]> Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-26T01:23:37 -05.00 Zing 36 Originally posted by: fox

End of third party exclusives? I'd say that is a win for the consumer, means you don't have to worry about certain developers playing favorites or having to buy a whole new console just for 1 or 2 games you can't get elsewhere. Of course the first of second party will remain exclusive, but the other 90% of the third party stuff you should be able to play on your platform of choice.

It's the end of the third party exclusives, and the beginning of the "available everywhere BUT" typing of releases. Nintendo's consoles are starting to suffer from this gap in games, effectively turning the Wii U into a $350 Mariobox. Lack of exclusives also hurts console manufacturers a considerable amount, as not only will there be no reason to buy Console X, there will be obvious "better on Console Y" games. Remember the SNES and Genesis, and how all but one multiplatform games were always superior on the Genesis? Basically that, times ten.

Regarding the "anywhere BUT" theory, a great example would be Kojima and him realizing that being exclusive to Sony isn't the brightest idea on the planet. However, Kojima didn't want MGR:R, a Platinum game, to be on the Wii U, but he sure loves it when Nintendo gives him free commercials with Smash Bros, or how he made an MGS themed demo for the 3DS and stated that "there may be no plans for a 3DS game". In Kojima's view, I guess you could say it's "alright". ]]> Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-10T10:37:31 -05.00 Zing 36
In a perfect world, Nintendo would go third party, and MS would do the networking for Sony's hardware.

Of course that would be the death of console gaming since there would be no competition... ]]> Lack of diversity in modern consoles http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=100174 2013-04-09T22:46:25 -05.00 Zing 36
If anyone who may have a problem it's Sony. The company has been bleeding money on the whole beyond the PS side of things, they're in third in this dying generation regrettably thanks to their ignorant and arrogant sales tactics and developer handling, and look how long and how much had to be stripped off the PS3 to get it profitable. Then there's the Vita, you can fill in the blanks on that one. I'd rather not see them crater but you can only live so long acting as they do even if they do control stuff like Uncharted, God of War, Sly Cooper, LittleBigPlanet, ModNation Racers, and some other gems. I'd rather them not choke, but I'd see them as the first to eat it.

Nintendo is Nintendo and no matter what know it all analysts like Prachter says, they're not going to die, they're not going to go away, fold up their console operations, or any other of that crap. Nintendo is a brand, the brand of the ages of gaming that people first run to for family stuff and specifically a long line of first party stable creations that keep getting successful rehashes people enjoy while slowly churning out new IPs that get gobbled up fairly successfully well, and you can even include in the slow immersion of Japanese stuff (Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Custom Robo) into our language to play. Sure they've pissed off some third parties probably irreparably, while others like the d-bags at Epic have it in for them admittedly too, plus the Wii didn't help things from a visual standpoint (while making them bloody rich) yet they're still kicking and profitable on the whole system after system. Nintendo with the N64 and somewhat even with Wii proved they needed little third party true honest support and backing to live a profitable existence. When you figure they're also still handily dominating the dedicated home portable market still for another generation, they're fine. Not only are they fine, in a way, when you look at 1st/2nd party generated titles they still ooze that diversity of created styles of games from that earlier cartridge based era that's rapidly dying a sad and mass commercialized stinking death today from the stifling high dollar creation model that's there now giving us safe FPS, sports, WRPG and a few other genres. With Nintendo you got your platformer, adventure, action, RPG, strategy, mini game, party game, shooter, action rpg, arena combat, simulation and more. ]]>