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NES Top loader Prototype? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=3&threadid=12789 2008-10-30T08:10:28 -05.00 Herbalist 52 Originally posted by: jero32

A game thats ntsc wil play slower on ntsc. A way to "fix" this is to for example if mario moves 1 pixel a frame in mario ntsc.....to do some extra pixels per frame in pal.


Ah ok, like that, then i understand what you mean But is it possible to do it like that, or will the game gets more "choppy/laggy" (or what i shall say) if you move the character in the game for example 2 pixels at the time instead of 1 pixel at the time?

By the way, i opened up a french NES console yesterday since it had some problems reading the games so i had to try to clean the connector, and i saw a "PAL-EEC" sticker on the motherboard, so i guess that the french NES consoles uses a PAL NES motherboard

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NES Top loader Prototype? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=3&threadid=12789 2008-10-29T13:31:56 -05.00 Herbalist 52 NES Top loader Prototype? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=3&threadid=12789 2008-10-29T11:37:57 -05.00 Herbalist 52 Originally posted by: jero32



Lots of games were not pal optimized....but you make a point. Especially since I know for a fact alot of france region games were sold in nl ....including some pal optimized. However iirc (not sure i'll look it up later)  secam is 60 hrtz. Its sort of a mix between ntsc and pal and basicly totally unnecesary. Using an ntsc motherboard to convert the signal would be easier cause of the same sync rate.

edit: my bad.....it IS 50 hrtz.....so they prob used a pal console....

How do you mean with "not optimized"?

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NES Top loader Prototype? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=3&threadid=12789 2008-10-28T18:21:44 -05.00 Herbalist 52 Originally posted by: jajaja

Originally posted by: jero32


Dont forget that europe didnt get toploader.....why would france? (altough I think they're consoles are basicly american ones modified with a ntsc to secam converter.....could be pal converted though) the rgb is not true rgb

I know, i just wanted to inform that the french Toaster NES uses a "special" TV-cable, it is not the same cable that the Super Nintendo, the Nintendo 64 and the Gamecube uses The TopLoader in the auction in the first post in this thread has a i.e Super Nintendo-like output.

I am 99% sure that the french NES consoles uses a PAL motherboard. If it was a converted american motherboard with only a ntsc to secam converter, then the CPU (processor) would still be alittle faster than the PAL CPU. This might causes glitches in the games, and the games might also run at a faster speed, which they dont, i tested a french NES consoles yesterday I'm not 100% sure, but i think the only difference between a PAL and a NTSC NES motherboard is the CPU and GPU (graphics card), but please correct me i'm wrong.

But i think you are right about that the french NES consoles arent true RGB though. I do think you need a SCART input on your TV that supports RGB signals though, or else it wont work. I remember i sold a NES console to a guy once, and he called me when he got home to test it, and he said it didnt work. I then told him to try to connect the NES consoles to another SCART input, and then it worked I think he only got the sound when he connected to a other SCART input on his TV. I assumed that the SCART input he first tried didnt support RGB signals, but i dont know, sorry :\




Lots of games were not pal optimized....but you make a point. Especially since I know for a fact alot of france region games were sold in nl ....including some pal optimized. However iirc (not sure i'll look it up later)  secam is 60 hrtz. Its sort of a mix between ntsc and pal and basicly totally unnecesary. Using an ntsc motherboard to convert the signal would be easier cause of the same sync rate.

edit: my bad.....it IS 50 hrtz.....so they prob used a pal console....
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