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The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Also, no biologists make a distinction between micro and macro evolution. Also, evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. I'm not sure how you guys got on the topic of pyramids -- I'm not going to bring religion into my response because I find it irrelevant. If you want to say evolution is guided by an intelligent being, fine - but the process has been observed and there's simply no denying the evidence unless you live in a bubble or have a serious misunderstanding of the scientific method. Tagging an underlying meaning behind the process (e.g. God) is your own prerogative, and I suppose whether you require evidence for such meaning is up to the individual. ]]> Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T22:12:21 -05.00 ankermane 727 Originally posted by: buyatari2

There may be a God. Life on earth may have come from another planet. When you point to the bible or to the pyramids as evidence of this......well that is where I have an issue. Both of them are man made. +666

]]> Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T20:11:57 -05.00 ankermane 727 Originally posted by: Player_01

I also want to add that I don't understand why the atheist would knock the ideas of drag00n.

Not sure about others but I see them in much the same light.

A man looks to the skies asks why and then invents his own answer when there is none. However, he wants to believe so bad that he ignores logic and in some cases reality.

There may be a God. Life on earth may have come from another planet. When you point to the bible or to the pyramids as evidence of this......well that is where I have an issue. Both of them are man made. ]]> Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T19:13:03 -05.00 ankermane 727 Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T18:51:31 -05.00 ankermane 727 Originally posted by: Stan

Originally posted by: Player_01

Yeah Stan sure, it was like a video game to them. Is that your expert opinion? So let me get this straight they built the worlds largest structure for a kings burial but then decided to purposely not place the kings body within the sarcophagus or anywhere else on the premises . The stella they claim is Khufu s pretty much states that he only restored the sphinx and great pyramid not built them. This is very basic info here. You act like there is no mystery to the great pyramid.

I mean, there frikken isn't a mystery to it, I'm not sure what else there is to tell you. Even if there was, that doesn't mean it has to be aliens, what sense is there in that? Instead of no proof you impart proof that doesn't exist? That's even stupider than just ignoring the problem. They're just confused on some of the dates because of the way pieces were moved around, reused, etc. I didn't say I was an expert on this, but I've read the words, books, and articles of experts many times, that's what you do. You don't go by things you've seen on Nostradamus episodes on "History" channel or random internet articles, do actual research. If you want, here you go, you can start here and then get more complicated:

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Pyramids-Solving-Ancient-Myst...

And read some of the comments on there, there are some people who will point out flaws of that book and point you int he direction of others. Go on Google Scholar (sometimes), JSTOR, whatever. Hell, let me search JSTOR right now for you, save you the trouble before you think aliens are typing for you. Here's a good one about the Zoser pyramid. If you're not a member of JSTOR or have access through a college or university, your best bet will be to hit a library and start reading real books on the subject or accessing these types of articles from there.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/990205?searchUri=%2Fac...

Also if this thread is an indicator of your reaading comprehension then I suggest you reread the books you are talking about. I have not said anything remotely supporting an ancient astronaut theory.

]]> Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T18:41:40 -05.00 ankermane 727 Originally posted by: Stan

Originally posted by: Player_01

Decided to pop my head back in here. I see that if people don't start becoming nihilist then the mythbusters are going to tear them a new one in this thread. Stan you trip me out. You speak so matter of fact on things that are genuinely unknown or unresolved. For instance you speak about the great pyramid of "Kufu" but I didn't see any mention of the lack of a stella or hieroglyphs or any other indicators that Egyptians had any involvement in the construction. I see that lesser pyramids contain these clear signs of Egyptian working. There was no mummy found within the kings chamber , no treasures or burial goods.

I believe Egyptian culture found or inherited the great pyramid and began to copy it at a later date. There are many respected egyptologist who date the great pyramid and the sphinx to much later periods than the what should be thought of as egyptian.

I see that where science produces holes you guys produce excuses so that everything fits neatly within your paradigm. Is it so hard to admit you don't have an answer or is it just easier to rely on the answers of others?

I mean, this is just totally incorrect. What did you read to get this information, might I ask? As I mentioned earlier, go watch Chasing Mummies, the guy explains everything you'd need to know without "wasting" your time studying real texts, which I see you don't. There are plenty of markings inside the pyramids, the construction groups that would work on them, for example, had numbers and "team names" essentially, and they'd mark their blocks. It was like a game to them, in a way, production through competition. Who can get the most blocks up, who's the fastest, etc. So they'd mark them, you can see that inside the pyramids, it's been VERIFIED FOR DECADES NOW. No mummy was found in there because it was purposefully made false so no one would rob it, duh? And what is that next statement about relying on the answers of others? Isn't that what you were doing with the Bible?!!! Of course I'm going to rely on the KNOWLEDGE of COMPETENT scholars! That's the point. What, I'm supposed to go to Egypt and research this myself? What in the hell sense does that even make? I deleted and didn't even feel like commenting on your pointless comment about the position of the pyramid, etc. Go look it up, there are plenty of good books or articles via JSTOR that will explain everything better than I could. Good god this stuff makes me sick.
What's with the tantrum? There are other ways to get your point across without saying things like "duh" and shouting.

Let's all try to be respectful of each other.

]]> Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T18:11:13 -05.00 ankermane 727 Originally posted by: Player_01

Yeah Stan sure, it was like a video game to them. Is that your expert opinion? So let me get this straight they built the worlds largest structure for a kings burial but then decided to purposely not place the kings body within the sarcophagus or anywhere else on the premises . The stella they claim is Khufu s pretty much states that he only restored the sphinx and great pyramid not built them. This is very basic info here. You act like there is no mystery to the great pyramid. I mean, there frikken isn't a mystery to it, I'm not sure what else there is to tell you. Even if there was, that doesn't mean it has to be aliens, what sense is there in that? Instead of no proof you impart proof that doesn't exist? That's even stupider than just ignoring the problem. They're just confused on some of the dates because of the way pieces were moved around, reused, etc. I didn't say I was an expert on this, but I've read the words, books, and articles of experts many times, that's what you do. You don't go by things you've seen on Nostradamus episodes on "History" channel or random internet articles, do actual research. If you want, here you go, you can start here and then get more complicated:

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Pyramids-Solving-Ancient-Mysteries/dp/0500285470

And read some of the comments on there, there are some people who will point out flaws of that book and point you int he direction of others. Go on Google Scholar (sometimes), JSTOR, whatever. Hell, let me search JSTOR right now for you, save you the trouble before you think aliens are typing for you. Here's a good one about the Zoser pyramid. If you're not a member of JSTOR or have access through a college or university, your best bet will be to hit a library and start reading real books on the subject or accessing these types of articles from there.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/990205?searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Degypt%2Bpyramid%26acc%3Doff%26wc%3Don%26fc%3Doff&Search=yes&searchText=pyramid&searchText=egypt&uid=3739936&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21101880444523

]]> Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T14:29:02 -05.00 ankermane 727
What does that link have to do with anything? I never mentioned aliens or any such in regards to the pyramids. Also the author of that piece is the editor of skeptical enquirer so how is that non-biased? ]]> Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T13:16:15 -05.00 ankermane 727 Originally posted by: Player_01

Also how do you explain things like the pyramid being the median height of the earths land mass as well as being in the center of the earths distributed mass? Just a coincidence that the geomancy they used was that mathematically precise. The alignment with the various constellations like orion and siruis etc the list goes on and on with mathematical anomalies. Anomalies in so much as no one can understand how they came to posess this knowledge. Here, this guy explains things briefly and then mentions some excellent reading materials for you and your foolery.

http://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2010/08/debunking-ten-alien-encounter-myths.html#.UWRMm5OkrZ4

]]> Poll: Intelligent Design or Evolution? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=98285 2013-04-09T12:56:50 -05.00 ankermane 727 Originally posted by: Player_01

Decided to pop my head back in here. I see that if people don't start becoming nihilist then the mythbusters are going to tear them a new one in this thread. Stan you trip me out. You speak so matter of fact on things that are genuinely unknown or unresolved. For instance you speak about the great pyramid of "Kufu" but I didn't see any mention of the lack of a stella or hieroglyphs or any other indicators that Egyptians had any involvement in the construction. I see that lesser pyramids contain these clear signs of Egyptian working. There was no mummy found within the kings chamber , no treasures or burial goods.

I believe Egyptian culture found or inherited the great pyramid and began to copy it at a later date. There are many respected egyptologist who date the great pyramid and the sphinx to much later periods than the what should be thought of as egyptian.

I see that where science produces holes you guys produce excuses so that everything fits neatly within your paradigm. Is it so hard to admit you don't have an answer or is it just easier to rely on the answers of others? I mean, this is just totally incorrect. What did you read to get this information, might I ask? As I mentioned earlier, go watch Chasing Mummies, the guy explains everything you'd need to know without "wasting" your time studying real texts, which I see you don't. There are plenty of markings inside the pyramids, the construction groups that would work on them, for example, had numbers and "team names" essentially, and they'd mark their blocks. It was like a game to them, in a way, production through competition. Who can get the most blocks up, who's the fastest, etc. So they'd mark them, you can see that inside the pyramids, it's been VERIFIED FOR DECADES NOW. No mummy was found in there because it was purposefully made false so no one would rob it, duh? And what is that next statement about relying on the answers of others? Isn't that what you were doing with the Bible?!!! Of course I'm going to rely on the KNOWLEDGE of COMPETENT scholars! That's the point. What, I'm supposed to go to Egypt and research this myself? What in the hell sense does that even make? I deleted and didn't even feel like commenting on your pointless comment about the position of the pyramid, etc. Go look it up, there are plenty of good books or articles via JSTOR that will explain everything better than I could. Good god this stuff makes me sick.

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